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CCW after a felony expungemnet

BCSO1042

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Owning/Posessing a firearm after Expungement (sealing)

As a Law enforcement official, I can tell you the cut and dry truth about this whole thing.
After your expungement, well lets just start calling it sealing, because in Ohio that's exactly what it is. but after sealing, the County court of common pleas (felony Cases) will order the case sealed. Most of the time the information will be gone off of the website (if your county has one) within 2 business days. the County Clerk of Courts is tasked with sending out a certified copy via certified mail to each of the agencies that had ANYTHING to do with that case. So if you were charged in Butler Co. and they picked you up in Adams Co. on that charge and extradited you back to Butler Co. then the clerk would send a certified copy of the granted sealing to them to seal their record of your arrest and booking etc.etc..now...also in the state of Ohio, and most importantly, the B.C.I. & I gets a certified copy of the sealing and processes it. Common misunderstanding is that the FBI and A.T.F. get one too..this is not so..the FBI and A.T.F. didn't charge you with a federal crime so an actual case doesn't exist in their system so to speak. when the B.C.I. seals their end of it, it's done. When getting a Background check for weapon purchase, the FBI goes through the B.C.I. to check for restrictions for owning weapons. since the B.C.I. sealed it, there's nothing to show them, and assuming there's no other charges that would prohibit
gun purchases, the FBI would clear you to make a purchase. unless you win their lottery for a 3 day hold lol.. I don't care what lawyer says what, this is the process.. The B.C.I. can take up to 4 weeks to process it once the receive it. and other than the Certified Copy you receive, you will get NO confirmation when this is completed.
As far as the CCW and CCL thing goes. Some people look into things wayyyyy too far. None of the Deputies i work with and not one of the dozens of officers from other agencies I've dealt with give two ***** about calling it CCW or CCL or carry conceal as most of us call it. Hell, in the lobby of my Sheriffs office there's a sign with an arrow pointing saying "CCW registration" you are not in anyway associating yourself with the charge of unlawful carry of a concealed weapon.
As far as the sealed record not being able to be used or viewed again or that its like it never happened...yes and no.. The county courts, BCI, FBI and higher agencies can still view it anytime. theres a code system COUNTRY wide that is used when submitting a Background check. when applying for a teaching ,healthcare, childcare, Government, or law enforcement position, these employers use the code or type of background check that sees through a sealed record like a piece of swiss cheese and it is unlawful for the subject to put No on the question if asked about felony convictions. but only in those circumstances. If you catch another felony, the court can and will use the sealed conviction in determining your sentence and so on.. as far as gun purchasing and posessing one, the code or type of search is different and does not reveal sealed convictions. i hope this was helpful.
 

solus

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welcome deputy...

i am sure your timely advice would have been appreciated to those who cared 5 years ago...

and could be beneficial to someone in this time frame.

ipse
 
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countryclubjoe

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welcome deputy...

i am sure your timely advice would have been appreciated to those who cared 5 years ago...

and could be beneficial to someone in this time frame.

ipse

Five year old topics and new post thereof, are actually more informative than the newer uninformative post of one " word salad"..

My .02
Regards
CCJ
 

Firearms Iinstuctor

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Welcome BCSO1042 to the forum when searching for interesting things to discuss we sometimes miss the when it was last posted date.

So be it.

I hope you stick around awhile.
 

solus

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what is fasinating is the original post 5 years ago was done by the convicted felon who was given 'permission' to use his uncle's OCDO forum account to tell his 12 yo tale of woe of stealing $4.00 +/- of something or other, found guilty, served time and everything...

absolutely nothing verified about the bloke's story 5 years ago whatsoever!

what's funnier...you'al still quibbling bout it now!!

ipse
 
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deepdiver

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As a Law enforcement official, I can tell you the cut and dry truth about this whole thing.

The age of the thread is irrelevant to the very interesting information BCSo1042 posted. Thank you BCSO for taking the time to explain all of that. While I understand each state has differences, I had zero idea of how it worked anywhere until now.

To those of you being unkind (to be nice) about the age of the thread, that is bad form and rude to respond that way to a new member, and especially a new member who took the time to give such a thorough and informed answer in the thread.

Thanks, BCSO. Hope you stick around and share your knowledge.
 
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