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Wiscond judges over stepping.

Firearms Iinstuctor

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DA fights to carry gun in Winnebago County courthouse (Wisconsin)
Milwaukee J-S ^ | 18 june 2012 | bruce vielmetti

Posted on Monday, June 18, 2012 6:03:23 AM by rellimpank

As an elected district attorney, Christian Gossett is one of the few people Wisconsin's concealed carry law specifically allows to wear a weapon in a courthouse.

But the judges in Winnebago County, where Gossett works, have said even he can't take a gun to work without written permission of whatever judge or court commissioner is presiding where Gossett might appear.

So Gossett and his chief deputy Scott Ceman - both concealed carry permit holders - have asked the state Supreme Court to declare that the circuit judges have exceeded their authority and for a writ of prohibition to block them from enforcing their ban.

According to a petition expected to be filed Monday, the Winnebago judges issued orders in January based on their "inherent authority . . . to control their courtrooms" that prohibit anyone except on-duty, sworn law enforcement officers from carrying a gun in the courthouse without prior written permission. Violation could result in fines, jail and confiscation of the weapon, according to the orders.


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We passed ACT 35 to remove the judicial system's inherent authority over legally armed citizens and still the black-robed crows are resistant. We the people and our elected legislator representatives control the courtrooms. Wail until the black-robed crows meet a fully informed jury. Caaw caw haw hah.

Good people ought to be armed as they will, with wits and Guns and the Truth. Bless the Bitter Clingers.
Bless the Bitter Clingers.
 

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Wonder why there's no mention of the MKE County CH policy, which (as one poster points out) is more restrictive?

ETA: Good to see John Monroe kicking them in the shins again! :D :dude: :exclaim:
 
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Let me cite some existing statutes, that apply to this situation:

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/175/60/1

175.60(1)(j) "Weapon" means a handgun, an electric weapon, as defined in s. 941.295 (1c) (a), a knife other than a switchblade knife under s. 941.24, or a billy club.

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/175/60/16

175.60(16) Prohibited activity.
_(a) Except as provided in par. (b), neither a licensee nor an out-of-state licensee may knowingly carry a concealed weapon, a weapon that is not concealed, or a firearm that is not a weapon in any of the following places:
__ 1. Any portion of a building that is a police station, sheriff's office, state patrol station, or the office of a division of criminal investigation special agent of the department.
__ 2. Any portion of a building that is a prison, jail, house of correction, or secured correctional facility.
__ 3. The facility established under s. 46.055.
__ 4. The center established under s. 46.056.
__ 5. Any secured unit or secured portion of a mental health institute under s. 51.05, including a facility designated as the Maximum Security Facility at Mendota Mental Health Institute.
__ 6. Any portion of a building that is a county, state, or federal courthouse.
__ 7. Any portion of a building that is a municipal courtroom if court is in session.
__ 8. A place beyond a security checkpoint in an airport.
_ (b) The prohibitions under par. (a) do not apply to any of the following:
__ 1. A weapon in a vehicle driven or parked in a parking facility located in a building that is used as, or any portion of which is used as, a location under par. (a).
__ 2. A weapon in a courthouse or courtroom if a judge who is a licensee is carrying the weapon or if another licensee or out-of-state licensee, whom a judge has permitted in writing to carry a weapon, is carrying the weapon.
__ 3. A weapon in a courthouse or courtroom if a district attorney, or an assistant district attorney, who is a licensee is carrying the weapon.

Statute Subdivision 175.60(16)(b)3 is the one that is most involved in this issue.
 
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2. A weapon in a courthouse or courtroom if a judge who is a licensee is carrying the weapon or if another licensee or out-of-state licensee, whom a judge has permitted in writing to carry a weapon, is carrying the weapon.
__ 3. A weapon in a courthouse or courtroom if a district attorney, or an assistant district attorney, who is a licensee is carrying the weapon.

I think the judges stopped reading at whom a judge has permitted in writing.
 
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