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    FEDS lay down the law in seattle. Federal Prison.

    The Justice Department's top official in Seattle promised Monday to start sending more people to federal prison for gun crimes

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2018467653_apwaseattlegunviolence1stldwritethru.ht ml?syndication=rss
    Will we see a rash of trumped up firearms charges on law abiding citizens in order to fill this anti-gun agneda. They never have been able to control criminals with guns, so all they really have here are the good citizens to lock away. Just my 2cents.
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    Looks like they are going after criminals in possession of firearms, repeat firearm offenders, and other pre-existing felons. This is what they SHOULD have been doing in the first place, not as a reaction to anything thats already happened. You cannot retro-actively prevent a tragedy as the ant-rights groups would have you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batousaii View Post
    Looks like they are going after criminals in possession of firearms, repeat firearm offenders, and other pre-existing felons. This is what they SHOULD have been doing in the first place, not as a reaction to anything thats already happened.
    Maybe it's just talk to put the sheep at ease. But telling the citizenís oh-bye-the-way, weíre going do our jobs now kind of makes them look like idiots. Thatís why I think they may be head hunting campaign in the works. Regular Joes with guns will make better anti-gun headlines in Seattle then criminals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batousaii View Post
    Looks like they are going after criminals in possession of firearms, repeat firearm offenders, and other pre-existing felons. This is what they SHOULD have been doing in the first place, not as a reaction to anything thats already happened. You cannot retro-actively prevent a tragedy as the ant-rights groups would have you think.
    This being the case does that mean the US Attorney's office has been derelict in their duties up until now?

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    It appears that the US Attorney's office is admitting their failure to prosecute violent felons in possession of firearms.... failure to execute the tough laws that they have advocated for in the past.

    It appears that the US Attorney's office is admitting to their already being enough 'gun laws' on the books to prosecute violent criminals and no other laws are needed.
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    Lockman, I'd say "YES" - very. GoGo and Jbone, I'd agree with you, does seem like they are admitting (without actually admitting) that they should have been prosecuting and following through with these "tough laws" against criminals.

    I dont really think they will go head-hunting Mr.Citizen, not unless there is some reasoning behind it. The media may try to spin or latch stories, make it sound like Mr.Regular guy, but if you/we are following the law, i don't see the federal gov going after you/us. Things like that end up in the lap of the supreme court faster than state side prosecutions, they know this, and avoid it.

    If the fed indeed start to play hard ball against real hardened criminals, it may in fact be a good thing for the rest of us. As OC/CC and Gun ownership goes up, and crime starts start dropping even faster with help from the feds, then we have a favorable statistic in our favor yes? - Cross Your Fingers, lets hope they do the right thing!

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    "If you bring a gun to a crime, you will do time" What if the police bring a crime to my gun? Guess I'll be going down. They said on KEPR action news that this is due to the recent shootings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lockman View Post
    This being the case does that mean the US Attorney's office has been derelict in their duties up until now?
    The last 10 years before I retired (1988-1998) we took several fed cases to the USAtty, only to have them declined because they did not meet the threshold for prosecution. (Threshold means note`worthy of the press)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Dr View Post
    The last 10 years before I retired (1988-1998) we took several fed cases to the USAtty, only to have them declined because they did not meet the threshold for prosecution. (Threshold means note`worthy of the press)
    And there you have it.


    How about this:

    Children under 18 have to be convicted of illegal gun possession five times before they are sent to a state Juvenile Rehabilitation Authority facility for 15 weeks, ]
    he said.
    No wonder the older, wiser, gangsters let the young punks carry the guns. Keep the kid close so you can get your hands on a gun if you need it and then give it to the kid so he can take the 'rap'. After all, 4 times are a free ride and the 5th only means a "vacation in Juvie".
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    Seattle crackdown on criminals has roots in gun community

    The City of Seattle, King County Prosecutorís Office, local police agencies and the U.S. Attorneyís office have announced they are going on the warpath against armed criminalsÖ

    http://www.examiner.com/article/seat...id=db_articles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Workman View Post
    I read much attempt at new gun control legislation in that article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone View Post
    I read much attempt at new gun control legislation in that article.
    Disagree. This is more along the lines of what gun owners have long advocated: enforce the laws already on the books rather than pass new, more-restrictive [but ineffective] laws.

    Project EXILE has been relatively effective in Richmond, VA. The thugs may or may not "get off easy" on the state charges, but then they get turned over to the Feds to face additional charges (illegal possession, use of a gun for a felony, etc.). The bottom line (as the billboards in Richmond say): "Use a gun to commit a crime, go to jail." Period.
    Guns don't kill people. Drivers on cell phones do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    "If you bring a gun to a crime, you will do time" What if the police bring a crime to my gun? Guess I'll be going down. They said on KEPR action news that this is due to the recent shootings.
    When the Columbine shootings happened, Colorado had the toughest laws and policies in the nation against guns in schools. Tougher than the laws a lot of places passed in response to Columbine.

    I expect more of the same here. And I expect it to be just as effective. After all, we don't call people criminals due to their profound respect for the law, nor their refusal to ever break the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eeyore View Post
    Disagree.
    I'd like to agree, but this is Seattle. Itís not about felons with guns, and itís going to be about guns in Seattle, period. There's to much anti history in Seattle for this not to have underlying motive. IMO, Felons-in-Possession is the cover story.

    We know antiís attack from every direction with multple angles, this one may just be another, and with a touch of deception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone View Post
    I'd like to agree, but this is Seattle. Itís not about felons with guns, and itís going to be about guns in Seattle, period. There's to much anti history in Seattle for this not to have underlying motive. IMO, Felons-in-Possession is the cover story.

    We know antiís attack from every direction with multple angles, this one may just be another, and with a touch of deception.
    Yep, what's going on is as clear as can be!

    This thread is another indicator that they are all teamed up on this one. http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?103705-Anti-Gun-Groups-and-City-To-Meet-At-Town-Hall
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