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    Michigan - 18yr arrested for open carry M-1.

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    This happened yesterday in the United States. In Michigan. Birmingham, Michigan, to be exact. See, Michigan has an "open carry" law on firearms. This 18-year-old high school kid in need of attention walked along the streets of the town sporting an M-1 rifle on his back. He created something of a ruckus, being a teenager with a sniper gun in the middle of the downtown, and the cops ended up charging him with disturbing the peace and other misdemeanors. Bonus points: he was arrested because the police asked for his i.d. to see if he was old enough to carry a gun. He refused to give it or proof that he owned the rifle. You got that, you idiots who love police power? If he wasn't committing any crimes, why should he not cooperate? Oh, wait. Because it's got to do with guns, not immigration or drugs. Oh, wait. It's because it's a white person being hassled, even though that white person is doing something that, legal or not, must have looked completely ******* nuts.

    So, of course, of course, the pussies with pistols and maniacs with machine guns had to get out in the streets 'cause otherwise the ghost of James Madison would cry or some such ****. Although you gotta wonder if Duck Lips and ****** Face up front there would march to defend someone's First Amendment rights (well, probably if it had to do with religious freedom for Christians) or if they'd join a march in support of habeas corpus rights for Gitmo prisoners. And you can't help but wonder what the people of Birmingham, 91% white, would have done had it been a bunch of AK-toting African Americans openly carrying in the streets.

    There you go: America 2012. We have large numbers of citizens who think it's cool to wander the downtowns of our cities sporting weapons of mass murder.
    How come a DUI you can get your driver licence back, which it is a privilege. But if commiting a felon, even something non violent like stealing, you are denied your constitutional rights for the rest of your life?
    If you don't support the Second Amendment to the Constitution, what other parts of the Constitution do you reject?
    More restrictions on guns? how about restrictions on chainsaws and knives?

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    Check the Michigan section.
    Answer every question about open carry in Michigan you ever had with one convenient and free book- http://libertyisforeveryone.com/open-carry-resources/

    The complete and utter truth can be challenged from every direction and it will always hold up. Accordingly there are few greater displays of illegitimacy than to attempt to impede free thought and communication.

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    Lightbulb The Judge will decide (Wed.) 6/20/2012 if the case goes forward or not...

    http://birmingham.patch.com/articles...nesday-hearing

    Usual goofy gibberish in the comments section. Please post to show support. I met this fine young man & his family.
    I strolled along with 30 other OCer's to where he was arrested, then to the police station/city hall for a commission meeting. Funny not a damn word was said to us, nor were we questioned or detained. Go figure
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    “A government that does not trust it’s law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms is itself unworthy of trust.” James Madison.

    “Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth.” “The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good.” George Washington

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    i love this idea. there should be more demonstrations like this all over america.
    im telling my age now but; when i was 12 i carried a shotgun everyday on my rural paper route.
    a deputy sherrif was one of my customers and allowed me to hunt rabbits on his proprety.
    also at the age of 17 i carried an m1 in the army. i was old enough to defend my country.
    this is not the same planet i grew up on.

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    The things people will say just to get their face or word on public news. I would call the poster of the other site a bit of a huge baby. I don't see the problem with walking around with an M1, if its legal and he wants to do it, by George let him do it. Disturbing the peace is being stretched in law enforcement when it comes to its use and definition. Now a days anything is considered "Disturbing the Peace", considering they use that term a bit far fetched.
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    I be willing to do a rally walk with my AR-15 and others to prove that this crap has to stop! If someone here in my state of "KANSAS" be willing to try this, I be game for it!
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    Thumbs down Judge Barron rules that the case should go to a jury trial??? In July

    It "appears" the Police/DA have a friendly Judge.

    http://www.oakgov.com/dc48/elected_o...io_barron.html

    Judge Barron's bio - It looks like we have another Judge Aqualina "cherry picked" for us OC people by the powers that be? See CADL vs MOC in the MI forum. I hope he proves me very wrong. If this ruling goes against this kid it could effect ALL gun carries CC/OC should their gun be seen in public. This could be a green light to all local police to question / detain / arrest / issue tickets, to see what sticks?

    Marc Barron
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    Judge Marc Barron serves as Judge of the 48th District Court, which includes the communities of Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills, Bloomfield Township, Keego Harbor, Orchard Lake, Sylvan Lake and West Bloomfield Township.

    Elected to the Court in 2004 to succeed Judge Edward Avadenka, Marc Barron has been a career Oakland County Prosecutor, with 12 years service in District, Circuit and Family Courts. In his 7 years as Oakland County Assistant Prosecutor for Major Crimes, he handled only the most serious criminal cases including murder, assault, criminal sexual conduct and other felonies.

    Born and raised in Oakland County, he attended Andover High School before earning his Bachelor of Science Degree in Economics and Finance (with honors) from the University of Arizona. He continued his honors studies at American University and the Washington College of Law where he earned his Juris Doctorate Degree, then clerked at the Department of Justice in Washington, D.C. prior to returning home to Oakland County.

    Judge Barron is active in the Oakland County Bar Association Inn of Court Program, as well as Oakland County Teen Court where he served both as Prosecutor and now as Judge. For ten years he was Instructor in Crimes Against Property and Crimes Against Persons at the Oakland Police Academy.

    Judge Barron is a member of the Child Abuse Neglect Council/Care House of Oakland County Advisory Board, American Judges Association, Michigan District Judges Association, State Bar of Michigan, Oakland County Bar Association, Oakland County Criminal Justice Coordinating Council and Birmingham Rotary Club.
    Last edited by Glock9mmOldStyle; 06-20-2012 at 06:37 PM. Reason: Bio link
    “A government that does not trust it’s law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms is itself unworthy of trust.” James Madison.

    “Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth.” “The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good.” George Washington

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTHunter View Post
    Perhaps you could contact the Rotary Club (which usually has many local business owners) and let them know that, because of this judges biased and unfriendly stance, you and your friends will take your business out of town. You would rather drive a little distance to where people appreciate your business and your rights. You're sorry that this will cause them a loss in sales and cost the city tax revenue, but yoiu can't afford to support businesses and governmental agencies that ignore both the law and your Constitutional rights.

    In other words, hit them where it hurts,in their wallets!!
    This is a good point. I think what he is saying is that in this case the Rotary wants to keep people with guns out of the shopping district of this very rich area of the Metro Detroit area. They may feel that they will lose more business if gun carriers are in the shopping district than if they are boycotted by them.

    I live in a area of lesser means and can tell you this about $$$ Richie Rich Land $$$ aka Birmingham MI , you will be hard pressed to find a bottle of water in the area priced under $5 bucks.

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