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    Oh boy, I feel indoctrinated now!

    My first LEO experience, coming out of a Krogers.

    He called me over, and said he expected I have a CHL, which I told him a CHL was not required to carry like that. Nothing too bad this time, just kinda talked, he said I really shouldn't do that with out a CHL, inducing panic, mass hysteria, dogs and cats playing together. You know, the kind of stuff they foretold in Ghostbusters, but because of my holstered gun. I told him I've been doing this for over a month now, and haven't had any mass hysteria yet.

    He did not demand ID, nor even my name. Didn't record it, even if I did it wasn't anything too interesting. We parted ways with a handshake and despite his attempts at scaring me into concealing, nothing was changed.

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    Inducing panic and mass hysteria does not concern me at all, but dogs and cats playing together, that calls for alarm.

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    You made it a consensual encounter by accepting his invitation to approach. Next time make him come to you.

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    No. If the LEO starts out nice, you should follow up nice.

    Just because you do not want your rights violated, doesn't mean you have to be militant during an encounter.

    Just remember to reserve your right to switch to being 'difficult' if the LEO steps over a line.

    I would say Noel got lucky by meeting a decent cop for his first encounter.

    And he did a fine job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWifeSaidYes View Post
    No. If the LEO starts out nice, you should follow up nice.

    Just because you do not want your rights violated, doesn't mean you have to be militant during an encounter.

    Just remember to reserve your right to switch to being 'difficult' if the LEO steps over a line.

    I would say Noel got lucky by meeting a decent cop for his first encounter.

    And he did a fine job.
    Yeah, thanks. I don't see the point being militant to the cops if they aren't being jackasses. Being rude to them, as if I'm some much higher power because of my rights, will just get those rights regulated faster. He called me over, big deal.

    The store I was at, one of my old high school friends works at, and he was there. He actually talked to the cop about it after I had left.

    Conversation on his end went something like this (Quoted from a Facebook message):

    He said it makes him nervous, went to check our company policy with my manager, hahaha. Hes like: "You know that guy?",
    "Yeah he's cool, we went to High School together."
    "Yeah, he seemed cool, makes me nervous though. What if an old lady freaks out because he's carrying?"
    Unfortunately, the answer to his question of an old lady freaking out is a loud, resounding, "Who cares?" But oh well.

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    Oh boy, I feel indoctrinated now!

    Quote Originally Posted by Noel Avenelle View Post
    ...I'm some much higher power because of my rights, will just get those rights regulated faster. He called me over, big deal.
    You have clearly been indoctrinated.
    1. to teach with a biased , one-sided or uncritical ideology.
    2. to brainwash.
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/indoctrinate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Heckler Koch View Post
    You have clearly been indoctrinated.
    Cool story, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noel Avenelle View Post
    Yeah, thanks. I don't see the point being militant to the cops if they aren't being jackasses. Being rude to them, as if I'm some much higher power because of my rights, will just get those rights regulated faster. He called me over, big deal.

    The store I was at, one of my old high school friends works at, and he was there. He actually talked to the cop about it after I had left.

    Conversation on his end went something like this (Quoted from a Facebook message):

    He said it makes him nervous, went to check our company policy with my manager, hahaha. Hes like: "You know that guy?",
    "Yeah he's cool, we went to High School together."
    "Yeah, he seemed cool, makes me nervous though. What if an old lady freaks out because he's carrying?"
    Unfortunately, the answer to his question of an old lady freaking out is a loud, resounding, "Who cares?" But oh well.
    Can't regulate rights...

    And if granny is freaked out the cop was going to take you down. That statement says the cop does not get it.

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    There may be a time where you need a recording yet do not have a recorder running.

    You are apparently properly prepared to defend yourself from thugs, yet are not adequately prepared to defend yourself from thugs wearing badges.

    You can always delete the 'not interesting stuff' later.
    I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.

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