Thread: Five in One Night!
I decided to do a little late night metal detecting so left the house around 10pm-ish. Travelled to a spot where I've found gold jewelry before, hoping to repeat that performance again. So I'm busily working my way to a coin when I am suddenly bathed in light. I glanced over my shoulder to discover an Aurora police officer has detected my presence. I turned off my metal detector and straighted up and walked toward the light
(Go to the light.... where have I heard that one before???)
Anyhow, he gave a real friendly greeting.
"How's it going? Having any luck?"
"Only a few coins so far." I replied. "But you'd be amazed at what I find."
He then proceded to ask if I had seen some nefarious activity going on at this location. Seems they have issues with kids getting on roofs and breaking out windows. I told him that I had not seen much, apart from a trio of youngsters, one of whom was on the roof, but nobody was breaking out windows. He thanked me for my time and left me to go back to detecting.
On the way home I stopped at 7-11 hoping to find a specific sort of munchie. 4 of Aurora's finest strolled in and set about to getting coffee and sandwiches. They were all real chatty as cops go, and friendly in demeanor. None mentioned the 1911 on my hip, and what they said to me was the general sort of light conversational stuff you'd get from anybody on the street.
All in all, quite the non-event.
In fact, the only noteworthy part of the night was that I found a silver ring (.925) to add to my pocket full of coins.
Not that it's a bad thing. Just saying, there's a motive there.
Check out this video and you'll see what I mean. This video is intended for police to pass the oral board.
HOWEVER the first negative or snide reference to my sidearm will result in my informing him that my consent to the contact has just ended and I'll walk away. I have been asked what I was carrying resulting in a general BS session about guns just like running into any other gun buff, but a request for ID or "running" my sidearm will result in an openly hostile attitude on my part.
I have had several people approach me over the last couple weeks and ask "Do you get hassled much for that"? and say they have seen all the U-tube videos, last time was in a stop-n-rob with a cop at the condiment bar doctoring up a couple cups of coffee while I got a soft drink. I said "Colorado is a generally accepting state and the western slope in particular and why should I as a law abiding citizen doing a legal thing have to go sneaking around skulking in the shadows"?
Guy looks at the cop who just kinda shrugs and says "Actually I kinda prefer open carry, I saw him coming, saw the gun and from his dress and demeanor figured he had nothing to hide and didn't really give him a second thought".
I think both things are true. They were certainly aware that I was totin', and the light contact was not unwelcome or intrusive but quite friendly.
And I believe they appreciate that I am an LAC and backing them. So it was a pretty good interaction.
IMHO, you have to take LEO contact on a case by case. The never talk to leo, is okay, if you are in an obvious contact for information. But, you are both at the same place at the same time grabbing a donut, what does it hurt to be nice. Maybe, just maybe, if you guys say hi every week when you see each other at Starbucks, the call for a MWAG while you are shopping at x,y,z store, will go very quick, if he is the responding officer...Feel me? I don't talk to cops in general, as stated, but....I do speak to people I encounter...
The Second Amendment is in place
in case the politicians ignore the others
A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone
Now I do find that LEOs can make me nervous when they get that “look” but I am proceeding to exercise my rights and have every intent to do so peacefully.
I do like the “line” expressed by F350, that “bump” is reasonable, starting to ask for “my papers” or to run my firearm and it is all “do I need my lawyer now, because I am going to shut up now” time.
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. – P.J. O'Rourke