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    A quick pro-tip for those who argue in here

    If you want to be convincing and seen as a serious, intelligent person, you ought to try extra hard not to throw around "clever" nicknames for, and misspellings and portmanteaus of the names of, people you don't like. It doesn't add weight to what you're saying. It just makes you sound like a six year old on the playground arguing about whether He-Man could beat up Lion-O.

    Eat two more big bites, and you can get down from the table.

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    Yeah, like changing Moosejaw to Mooselips, or something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmoosejaw View Post
    Yeah, like changing Moosejaw to Mooselips, or something like that.
    Yup. Even I'm guilty of it, mooselips, though I don't dislike you. I just think you should think through your opinions a little more thoroughly.
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    One might hope that we would spend less time arguing and more time spent discussing in a responsible manner. We can get too embroiled in the topic and thereby sometimes lose direction - our intended point is diminished or buried in an avalanche of ill chosen words.

    While good friends may jab at one another, most often changing a user's screen name is done to irritate, make fun of, or otherwise diminish their character. It is IMO insulting and we all know what the rules say about insults.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ()pen(arry View Post
    Yup. Even I'm guilty of it, mooselips, though I don't dislike you. I just think you should think through your opinions a little more thoroughly.

    Eat the rest of them peas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmoosejaw View Post
    Eat the rest of them peas.
    And please don't talk with your mouth full + close it when you chew.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.Ē Archilochus, 650 BC

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    Quote Originally Posted by ()pen(arry View Post
    Yup. Even I'm guilty of it, mooselips, though I don't dislike you. I just think you should think through your opinions a little more thoroughly.
    Yup, just another way of saying another opinion don't mean.... and keep it to yourself. Oh brother.


    Quote Originally Posted by ()pen(arry View Post
    If you want to be convincing and seen as a serious, intelligent person, you ought to try extra hard not to throw around "clever" nicknames for, and misspellings and portmanteaus of the names of, people you don't like. It doesn't add weight to what you're saying. It just makes you sound like a six year old on the playground arguing about whether He-Man could beat up Lion-O.

    Eat two more big bites, and you can get down from the table.
    I see three possibilities, someone went to confession, took a hard look in the mirror and didn't like what they saw, or is just another tactic to rule the roost. A little hard to believe such an offender is butt hurt, or just feels bad about their own tone.
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    I just thought it was an exersize in irony...

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    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmoosejaw View Post
    Yeah, like changing Moosejaw to Mooselips, or something like that.
    Here's some additional recent slip-ups by Saint ()pen(arry, and what he/or she really thinks of other's opinions, and other people.

    your irrational, ignorant viewpoints
    Those dirty other folk don't qualify
    You're a first-class bigot



    Another ploy to advance "do as I say not as I do" This topic introduction oozes with dishonestly.
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    Removed double tap!
    Last edited by jbone; 06-27-2012 at 10:32 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone View Post




    Another ploy to advance "do as I say not as I do" This topic introduction oozes with dishonestly.
    Some would call that liberalism...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    Some would call that liberalism...
    Exactly, liberalism: walking up to a person without provocation slapping them in the face, turning the other cheek for them and slapping the other cheek. And with red stinging palm, and two red welting checks deny the event ever took place, or blame it on someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone View Post
    Here's some additional recent slip-ups by Saint ()pen(arry, and what he/or she really thinks of other's opinions, and other people.



    Another ploy to advance "do as I say not as I do" This topic introduction oozes with dishonestly.
    That's why I will continue to speak my mind as I see fit. If it offends people so much, they're invited not to read it. I read all sorts of leftist drivel and pretentious "libertarian" castigation. Some of it insults our intelligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone View Post
    Here's some additional recent slip-ups by Saint ()pen(arry, and what he/or she really thinks of other's opinions, and other people.



    Another ploy to advance "do as I say not as I do" This topic introduction oozes with dishonestly.
    You do realize not one of those is an example of what he was talking about? Examples would be if I were to call you jbonehead, when others call Obama Obozo or similar, etc.

    At least we've gotten past the idiotic "hurr his middle name's Hussein durr" that was so prevalent pre-2008.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawnos View Post
    You do realize not one of those is an example of what he was talking about? Examples would be if I were to call you jbonehead, when others call Obama Obozo or similar, etc.

    At least we've gotten past the idiotic "hurr his middle name's Hussein durr" that was so prevalent pre-2008.
    Calling a public figure who is not a member Obozo, or moonbat, Hussein(which is his name) is not the same as directly insulting members. Of course I do not expect liberals to understand the difference, since they had plenty of pet names for previous presidents.

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    Gee...I guess I'd better rethink calling obooba obooba. Or disregard self righteous tripe from members with dozens of posts who have been here for several months...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawnos View Post
    You do realize not one of those is an example of what he was talking about? Examples would be if I were to call you jbonehead, when others call Obama Obozo or similar, etc.

    At least we've gotten past the idiotic "hurr his middle name's Hussein durr" that was so prevalent pre-2008.
    Nice tap dance!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    Calling a public figure who is not a member Obozo, or moonbat, Hussein(which is his name) is not the same as directly insulting members. Of course I do not expect liberals to understand the difference, since they had plenty of pet names for previous presidents.
    Oh, don't even get me started on the idiots who called Bush names (e.g. Shrub). I called people on it then and I do it now, because it's stupid regardless who is behind the slinging. Resorting to intentional name mangling to insult or degrade does nothing more but show a schoolyard intellect and a sense that browbeating and bullying beats engaging on point.

    Additionally, the comments from moosejaw were generally about jbone's positions and actions. E.g. his viewpoints were irrational and his actions and expressions bigoted. Considering jbone and PFW do act like spiteful, hateful people to "liberals" (read: anyone who doesn't exactly align their viewpoint to what jbone/PFW thinks is right), it's not name calling or directly insulting. It's calling a spade a spade, and nothing more.
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    The use of portmanteaus in political commentary and satire is a LONG and honorable practice. Mark Twain was perhaps the master of this in the USA, and people like Oscar Wilde and Charles Dickens used it to great effect too.

    Personally, I find clever wordplay in political discourse to be a sign of intelligence, creativity, and the ability to "think outside the box". And those who would object to this practice must, to my understanding, lack these traits.

    That's all I have to say about that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    The use of portmanteaus in political commentary and satire is a LONG and honorable practice. Mark Twain was perhaps the master of this in the USA, and people like Oscar Wilde and Charles Dickens used it to great effect too.

    Personally, I find clever wordplay in political discourse to be a sign of intelligence, creativity, and the ability to "think outside the box". And those who would object to this practice must, to my understanding, lack these traits.

    That's all I have to say about that...
    Perhaps if the jibes were clever, new, used pointedly, etc. Instead we get the SOS play (Same old sh-t). Wow, you made Obama into Obozo, good for you *pat on head for the special needs child*. Oh, you're special, calling Bush "Shrub", never heard that one before, want a lollipop?

    It's the most obvious example of in the box thinking, because it's just repeating hatred without explication of problematic policy and potential solutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawnos View Post
    Perhaps if the jibes were clever, new, used pointedly, etc. Instead we get the SOS play (Same old sh-t). Wow, you made Obama into Obozo, good for you *pat on head for the special needs child*. Oh, you're special, calling Bush "Shrub", never heard that one before, want a lollipop?

    It's the most obvious example of in the box thinking, because it's just repeating hatred without explication of problematic policy and potential solutions.
    So suggesting someone is a special needs child is OK~~I get it now, the same old liberal game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    So suggesting someone is a special needs child is OK~~I get it now, the same old liberal game.
    I love when I'm called liberal by people here, conservative by people elsewhere, and both mean it as a smear job, when the terms are meaningless outside of context.

    But sure, if you want to keep calling the president names like a little schoolyard child would call another person he does not like, be my guest. It would be much more impressive, though, if you actually addressed policies and actions rather than merely parroting *bwaaaak*Obozo*bwaaaak*.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    The use of portmanteaus in political commentary and satire is a LONG and honorable practice. Mark Twain was perhaps the master of this in the USA, and people like Oscar Wilde and Charles Dickens used it to great effect too.

    Personally, I find clever wordplay in political discourse to be a sign of intelligence, creativity, and the ability to "think outside the box". And those who would object to this practice must, to my understanding, lack these traits.

    That's all I have to say about that...
    Lets not forget Saul Alynisky's tactic of marginalizing and ridiculing the opposition. I love using their tactics against them. The only people who say anything more idiotic than obooba defenders, are in the administration itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawnos View Post
    I love when I'm called liberal by people here, conservative by people elsewhere, and both mean it as a smear job, when the terms are meaningless outside of context.

    But sure, if you want to keep calling the president names like a little schoolyard child would call another person he does not like, be my guest. It would be much more impressive, though, if you actually addressed policies and actions rather than merely parroting *bwaaaak*Obozo*bwaaaak*.
    I didn't call you liberal, I said it was the same old liberal game, and it is. I have no doubt there may be some conservatives that play liberal games, but it is what it is. You whimper and cry about name calling and then in the same paragraph do it yourself, it is a typical liberal trait.

    BTW why do people get so incensed by the word liberal?
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