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    MI Court: stun guns covered by 2nd Amendment

    Michigan court says RKBA includes weapons other than guns, even if they're "unusual".

    http://www.volokh.com/2012/06/27/mic...rry-in-public/

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    So, we can carry tazers and other weapons without fear of prosecution, or a CPL?

    What about 227, and 231a? Wouldn't the same logic apply to handguns?

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    New law renders this decision instantly obsolete. You need a CPL to have a taser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    So, we can carry tazers and other weapons without fear of prosecution, or a CPL?

    What about 227, and 231a? Wouldn't the same logic apply to handguns?
    Yes. You should carry any and all weapons, blades, blackjacks, swords, brass knuckles, batons without a CPL. This opinion will save you from prosecution.

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    What, did you replace Pat as my personal troll?

    It was a serious question, deserving of a serious answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    What, did you replace Pat as my personal troll?

    It was a serious question, deserving of a serious answer.
    I'm serious. Read the opinion..carry away(well, maybe not the brass knuckles).
    Last edited by scot623; 06-27-2012 at 11:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    What, did you replace Pat as my personal troll?

    It was a serious question, deserving of a serious answer.
    He's looking forward to his term expiring...

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    it also applies to handguns...and it also said that an open carry ban is unconstitutional....

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    Could this decision have an effect on the CADL vs. MOC case?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Gay Al View Post
    Could this decision have an effect on the CADL vs. MOC case?
    One would think...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Gay Al View Post
    Could this decision have an effect on the CADL vs. MOC case?
    To the extent OC is not Brandishing...it's possible.

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    So what you are saying is the principle of the balancing of powers has been sucessfully carried out? The Legislature wrote a law that the court found unconstitutional. The Legislature did not like that, so wrote a new law that worked around the unconstitutional provisions of the old law. Everyone is now waiting (mostly without bated breath) to see if anybody will challenge the consitutionality of the new law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    So what you are saying is the principle of the balancing of powers has been sucessfully carried out? The Legislature wrote a law that the court found unconstitutional. The Legislature did not like that, so wrote a new law that worked around the unconstitutional provisions of the old law. Everyone is now waiting (mostly without bated breath) to see if anybody will challenge the consitutionality of the new law.

    Did I miss anything?

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    Yes, the ordering and principles behind the new law do not match what you have stated above. I do not believe that the legislature knew how this decision was going to play out and was considering making tazers legal for CPL Holders anyways, which was voted in and signed into law well in advance of this ruling. I would believe that an analysis of this ruling against the new tazer law would be appropriate. In someone's dubious spare time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Gay Al View Post
    Could this decision have an effect on the CADL vs. MOC case?
    Another pro OC precedent always helps!
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