mannys9130
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Hello all,
My name is Manny from Tucson, AZ. To be short, I have just turned 18 at the end of April. I just moved out and have had a great time learning about the "real world". Unfortunately, I have already had 2 incidents that have resulted in me REALLY wanting to open carry a handgun. The first was when my friend picked a fight with 3 Aryan Brotherhood members and I swore we were going to be shot, and the second was with a violent drunk who threatened my 19 year old friend, 17 year old lady friend, and myself in the parking lot after work. I don't want to come across as immature, as I think I am quite knowledgeable about firearms, firearm safety, and the right/duty to protect one's body. I have been shooting every kind of civilian firearm under the sun since 8 years old. I was lucky my dad was into shooting because I was originally born in...Massachusetts.:uhoh: Luckily we moved here a few years ago. My dad usually conceals most of the time, but he OCs some times.
As it stands, I have a small collection of surplus rifles, a 12 Ga. shotgun that fills the home defense role (bought from a pawn shop and got proceed first try) and a Nagant pistol that was gifted to me by my Dad.
As I understand it, owning a handgun at 18 in AZ is legal as long as the firearm was a gift from a parent or grandparent, or you procured the firearm from a private sale. Same deal with ammunition. You cannot procure it from an FFL shop, but you can from private sales. If you lie to Wal-mart about using ammo in a rifle that you intend to use in a pistol, you commit a federal felony. I also understand there is no registration or paper work needed to document the sale or gift. Is this correct?
I understand that an early 1900s pistol is not the best carry option, and probably quite frankly a horrible choice. It does however, exceed the capability of the Glock knife that I am currently open carrying. I have it loaded currently in the home with .32 H&R cartridges. Tested on the range, the only negative to using these is that the case bulges and makes extraction difficult and reloading impossible. I think a handgun vastly increases the deterrent factor over a knife, since people feel like they can disarm a knife armed citizen. You cannot dodge a bullet that easy.
Until I have the money needed to purchase a respectable firearm to OC, I wanted to be sure my setup would be legal before doing ANYTHING.
Currently, I carry a Glock 78 field knife (similar to a K-Bar) on my belt, in scabbard, openly. I ride a motorcycle exclusively, meaning no car, all around Tucson. I leave my knife open on top of my riding jacket and on my belt, in the sheath.
I would like to: Carry my Nagant pistol in its military holster on my belt openly. My concern is the whole concealment while in/on transportation. Am I legally allowed to get on my bike with my handgun in its holster and open carried on my belt? If not, would I have to unload and secure the firearm in my backpack? I don't have any saddle bags. It would be me, on the bike, right hand strong side draw with the holster's flap closed, but obvious that it was a handgun in the holster. Is that legal?
I had one guy in the gas station (the clerk) say to me as I walked out "yo dude is that a blade"? I just said "Yes, it is a Glock knife". He replied "Is that legal"? I said "yeah, you can open carry weapons at 18 years old". This event made me nervous, and I started to read furiously about the topic. I don't want to be harassed or worse, arrested by a LEO for open carrying.
So, what do you guys think? Is there a difference between me-open carried fixed blade knife-on a bike, and me-open carried Nagant revolver-on a bike? This is a serious question, and I welcome any and all feedback. Just remember that this would be temporary until a proper gun can be had.
-Manny
My name is Manny from Tucson, AZ. To be short, I have just turned 18 at the end of April. I just moved out and have had a great time learning about the "real world". Unfortunately, I have already had 2 incidents that have resulted in me REALLY wanting to open carry a handgun. The first was when my friend picked a fight with 3 Aryan Brotherhood members and I swore we were going to be shot, and the second was with a violent drunk who threatened my 19 year old friend, 17 year old lady friend, and myself in the parking lot after work. I don't want to come across as immature, as I think I am quite knowledgeable about firearms, firearm safety, and the right/duty to protect one's body. I have been shooting every kind of civilian firearm under the sun since 8 years old. I was lucky my dad was into shooting because I was originally born in...Massachusetts.:uhoh: Luckily we moved here a few years ago. My dad usually conceals most of the time, but he OCs some times.
As it stands, I have a small collection of surplus rifles, a 12 Ga. shotgun that fills the home defense role (bought from a pawn shop and got proceed first try) and a Nagant pistol that was gifted to me by my Dad.
As I understand it, owning a handgun at 18 in AZ is legal as long as the firearm was a gift from a parent or grandparent, or you procured the firearm from a private sale. Same deal with ammunition. You cannot procure it from an FFL shop, but you can from private sales. If you lie to Wal-mart about using ammo in a rifle that you intend to use in a pistol, you commit a federal felony. I also understand there is no registration or paper work needed to document the sale or gift. Is this correct?
I understand that an early 1900s pistol is not the best carry option, and probably quite frankly a horrible choice. It does however, exceed the capability of the Glock knife that I am currently open carrying. I have it loaded currently in the home with .32 H&R cartridges. Tested on the range, the only negative to using these is that the case bulges and makes extraction difficult and reloading impossible. I think a handgun vastly increases the deterrent factor over a knife, since people feel like they can disarm a knife armed citizen. You cannot dodge a bullet that easy.
Until I have the money needed to purchase a respectable firearm to OC, I wanted to be sure my setup would be legal before doing ANYTHING.
Currently, I carry a Glock 78 field knife (similar to a K-Bar) on my belt, in scabbard, openly. I ride a motorcycle exclusively, meaning no car, all around Tucson. I leave my knife open on top of my riding jacket and on my belt, in the sheath.
I would like to: Carry my Nagant pistol in its military holster on my belt openly. My concern is the whole concealment while in/on transportation. Am I legally allowed to get on my bike with my handgun in its holster and open carried on my belt? If not, would I have to unload and secure the firearm in my backpack? I don't have any saddle bags. It would be me, on the bike, right hand strong side draw with the holster's flap closed, but obvious that it was a handgun in the holster. Is that legal?
I had one guy in the gas station (the clerk) say to me as I walked out "yo dude is that a blade"? I just said "Yes, it is a Glock knife". He replied "Is that legal"? I said "yeah, you can open carry weapons at 18 years old". This event made me nervous, and I started to read furiously about the topic. I don't want to be harassed or worse, arrested by a LEO for open carrying.
So, what do you guys think? Is there a difference between me-open carried fixed blade knife-on a bike, and me-open carried Nagant revolver-on a bike? This is a serious question, and I welcome any and all feedback. Just remember that this would be temporary until a proper gun can be had.
-Manny