Bowesmobile
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I was thinking of something else... after my patents are in place I'll let you guys know :lol:
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In Case of Emergency, Open Carry at Home
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I was thinking of something else... after my patents are in place I'll let you guys know :lol:
half_life1052
Regular Member
Hawkflyer
Founder's Club Member
So who was it that first brought that gentleman's name into the discussion? :lol: :lol:
half_life1052
Regular Member
The whole conversation puts a new spin on the phrase "accidental discharge"
(ducks and runs)It is a federal offense to place non-certified (no US postage) material in a container marked "US Mail" or to access such a container if you are not the owner or a US Mail carrier. So if the slot is marked "US Mail" that explaines why they were not using it.
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it's not a container, it's a slot in the door with a hinged cover, that someone on the outside can lift out of the way so they can push items the thickness of an envelope through into my home where they just fall onto the floor for me to pick up later. It is not marked 'US Mail', never has been, never will be .. so your point is moot, but thanks for your concern.
If I catch someone littering my doorstep, they will be required to pick it up and take it with them, I don't care who they are or why they did it.
There are standards for both mailboxes and mail slots. Mailboxes are treated very much like post office property even though you must buy and maintain them. The standards for mail slots is not so tightly controlled - only specifying size and location + flapper door specs.
I have never seen any federal offense for mail slots which have been alluded to above. Cite?
http://faq.usps.com/eCustomer/iq/usps/request.do?create=kb:USPSFAQ&view()=c[c_usps0916]&varset%28source%29=sourceType:embedded#Attaching
I have never seen any federal offense for mail slots which have been alluded to above. Cite?
http://faq.usps.com/eCustomer/iq/usps/request.do?create=kb:USPSFAQ&view()=c[c_usps0916]&varset%28source%29=sourceType:embedded#Attaching
Just making an observation and was not trying to offend. I was thinking the "slot" was in an official mail box. I do agree that it would make me mad if someone just threw a bunch of flyers on my porch.
What also gets me are the political volunteers that post signs in your yard without asking. That chaffes my rear end.
Hawkflyer
Founder's Club Member
You need more space
You guys need to move further out. Most solisitors look at our place from the road and see nothing but trees. About half way down the driveway they start having second thoughts as to where it might be leading them and they usually turn back. The few that do get to the house (mostly Mormon or Baptist missionaries) get very concerned when they see an armed person wandering about the place, and so when asked politely they beat a hasty retreat.
I did have one guy (amway I think) who saw my sidearm, left and then called the police to report a MWAG. Forty five minutes later when the cop arrived he stayed just long enough to apologize for bothering me. It seems that wandering about your own property minding your own business while armed is perfectly legal in Virginia, but if someone reports you for doing so, the police still have to come check it out. Go figure.
Anyway, since we moved out of the city we get a lot less bother from solicitors.
Regards
You guys need to move further out. Most solisitors look at our place from the road and see nothing but trees. About half way down the driveway they start having second thoughts as to where it might be leading them and they usually turn back. The few that do get to the house (mostly Mormon or Baptist missionaries) get very concerned when they see an armed person wandering about the place, and so when asked politely they beat a hasty retreat.
I did have one guy (amway I think) who saw my sidearm, left and then called the police to report a MWAG. Forty five minutes later when the cop arrived he stayed just long enough to apologize for bothering me. It seems that wandering about your own property minding your own business while armed is perfectly legal in Virginia, but if someone reports you for doing so, the police still have to come check it out. Go figure.
Anyway, since we moved out of the city we get a lot less bother from solicitors.
Regards
Elkad
Regular Member
I do the same when I catch the people who throw phone books in my grass.
wylde007
Regular Member
When a "concerned citizen" reports that they saw something which made them uncomfortable, the police are policy-bound to investigate. I have been stopped twice while out walking my dog by one of Virginia Beach's finest.
Both times I was returning from the neighborhood Wawa with coffee and the extent of communication from the officer has been along the lines of "Oh, I see. Have a nice day, sir."
Betty_Rose_Brown
Regular Member
and the dog...
Well, walking the dog is *another* reason to carry. In my old neighborhood, we lived in proximity to a not-so-nice neighborhood and there were the occasional pit bulls running around, scaring the tar out of people. One day, I heard my elderly neighbor screaming for help, ran outside and saw a stray dog running on down the street. It had been terrorizing my neighbor as she tried to walk her two little dogs. She'd found a stick and had beaten the thing adequately that it gave up and ran off - just as I came out my front door.
Plus, last fall, someone in my new neighborhood (fewer people, more wildlife) shot and killed a rabid fox that had been running around and wreaking havoc. Animal control had been trying to catch the thing for several weeks, but our neighborhood's own Atticus Finch (wielding a .22 rifle) did the job in short order.
Well, walking the dog is *another* reason to carry. In my old neighborhood, we lived in proximity to a not-so-nice neighborhood and there were the occasional pit bulls running around, scaring the tar out of people. One day, I heard my elderly neighbor screaming for help, ran outside and saw a stray dog running on down the street. It had been terrorizing my neighbor as she tried to walk her two little dogs. She'd found a stick and had beaten the thing adequately that it gave up and ran off - just as I came out my front door.
Plus, last fall, someone in my new neighborhood (fewer people, more wildlife) shot and killed a rabid fox that had been running around and wreaking havoc. Animal control had been trying to catch the thing for several weeks, but our neighborhood's own Atticus Finch (wielding a .22 rifle) did the job in short order.
wylde007
Regular Member
I was confronted/attacked by loose (not necessarily stray) dogs multiple times in my youth.
Another friend of mine out in Pungo experienced somewhat the same.
So, yeah.
ElevenBravo
Regular Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcvXmHphQQo
Short story of the video, in case you dont want to watch it (Cliff Note):
1) NOAA SAME went off, severe storm approaching
2) 10 min prior to storm arrival, power fails WTF?
3) Loss of power: Possible emergency situation: Glock 19 secured to hip, flashlight in hand.
4) Storm hits. WTF! I didnt think it was going to be THIS BAD!
5) I establish communications via ham radio on the W4CA repeater. No, its not
isolated... POWER IS OUT FOR HUNDREDS OF MILES! Major property and tree
damage reported by all .
6) I place my VX-170 on the kitchen table, undo the vault and remove:
*1) Rossi youth 20ga shotgun, insure it is loaded, placed on safe, issued to wife
*2) Remove AR, insure round in chamber, weapon on safe, full 30 rnd mag is
properly seated.
*3) Insure additional 20 ga shells are centrally located, place an additional 30
rnd mag in back pocket. Place 2 more 30 rnd mags beside box of 20 ga shells.
(If daughter were home at the time, she would have been issued her 22lr
single action revolver, which she is a dead shot with.
7) Proceed to fire up genset and plug up lights & fridge. Plug up outside
security lighting. Plug up fan, its 100 deg f.
8) Yada Yada Yada, 24 hours later we were lucky to get power restored,
but maintained security until wide spread state of emergency has
passed.
Yes, as soon as the emergency is detected, arm up. Some folks get
a little "weird" when they know government resources are spread thin
(LEA, Fire, Rescue), and some weirdos use this as an opportunity to
become a predator.
GL to all...
Andrew
Short story of the video, in case you dont want to watch it (Cliff Note):
1) NOAA SAME went off, severe storm approaching
2) 10 min prior to storm arrival, power fails WTF?
3) Loss of power: Possible emergency situation: Glock 19 secured to hip, flashlight in hand.
4) Storm hits. WTF! I didnt think it was going to be THIS BAD!
5) I establish communications via ham radio on the W4CA repeater. No, its not
isolated... POWER IS OUT FOR HUNDREDS OF MILES! Major property and tree
damage reported by all .
6) I place my VX-170 on the kitchen table, undo the vault and remove:
*1) Rossi youth 20ga shotgun, insure it is loaded, placed on safe, issued to wife
*2) Remove AR, insure round in chamber, weapon on safe, full 30 rnd mag is
properly seated.
*3) Insure additional 20 ga shells are centrally located, place an additional 30
rnd mag in back pocket. Place 2 more 30 rnd mags beside box of 20 ga shells.
(If daughter were home at the time, she would have been issued her 22lr
single action revolver, which she is a dead shot with.
7) Proceed to fire up genset and plug up lights & fridge. Plug up outside
security lighting. Plug up fan, its 100 deg f.
8) Yada Yada Yada, 24 hours later we were lucky to get power restored,
but maintained security until wide spread state of emergency has
passed.
Yes, as soon as the emergency is detected, arm up. Some folks get
a little "weird" when they know government resources are spread thin
(LEA, Fire, Rescue), and some weirdos use this as an opportunity to
become a predator.
GL to all...
Andrew
MSC 45ACP
Regular Member
Good ideas, Andrew.
Try using "Ensure" rather than "Insure" unless you're talking about insurance.
You may want to ensure all of your stuff has been insured.... ;-)
Sorry I'm a Grammar and spelling Nazi. Misspelled and mis-used words just bother me.
pfries
Regular Member
The one that still gets me is Effect and Affect; I cannot seem to wrap my head around it.
ElevenBravo
Regular Member
Okay, thanks for the grammar tips, I know how to speak but sometimes choose the incorrect written word.
I hope you found the story entertaining.
Andrew
I hope you found the story entertaining.
Andrew
Effect is most frequently a noun form.
Affect more commonly is a verb form.
There are exceptions:
http://web.ku.edu/~edit/affect.html