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    Riverfront Park Open Carry LEO Interaction

    Hello all, let me tell you a story.
    Today when I got home from work I went and put my gun on as I always do. My wife said she wanted to take the kids down to Riverfront Park. If you haven't been there, you should really check it out if you're in Spokane. Beautiful place, small amusement park, carousel, nice scenery. Anyways we head down there and start walking on the South side of the river. We wanted to go by the water in front of the carousel, but there was no path for strollers on the West side so we walk around the back of it. Sure enough there are 3 bicycle officers on that side. I walk by them pushing my son in his stroller and nod as they look at my strong side. Probably came within 20 feet of them, no doubt they saw my M&P. I was getting a little nervous when i first saw them as I haven't had a LEO definitely see me packing yet. As we walk by they don't move at all but are watching me for sure. I get about 30 feet further and think all is well when I start hear the clicking of bike gears. Click, click, click...

    LEO: "Excuse me sir?"
    I turn, "Yes?"
    LEO: "I just wanted to say, I think if there were more people like you there would be less crime."
    ME: "Thank you very much officer!"
    LEO: "It's good to see a defensive citizen"

    Woah! I don't think I've smiled that big in years. And I don't think it went away for about and hour. As i heard him coming up all I was thinking was, Reasonable suspicion, probable cause, am I being detained? And when he walked away i was so happy my hands were shaking. I texted about 10 people who know I OC and got a lot of awesome responses. I am mad at my self for not getting his name or shaking his hand, but I was just in shock at the time. Anyways just wanted to give props to one of the good ones. They are out there and while this won't make me anymore compliant if anything happens another time it was a huge boost to my confidence.

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    Nice to hear about interaction like this with LEO's. I only recently started to OC And haven't gad any LEO interaction yet good or bad. Hopefully if I do it goes as smooth as it did for you. I have family in Spokane and Have been to Riverfront park a few times. Beautiful place and my kids love the giant Radio Flyer wagon!

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    Sounds like Spokane PD has come a long way. A long time ago (60's) it used to be like that (if you weren't black), but the Watts riots, and the black panthers got people scared, and politicians being politicians, they could not let any crisis go unexploited. (that is: We will protect you)

    Happy to hear things are getting back to normal.

    Wife and I also went to town today, as usually, no-one noticed.

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    Wow, that doesn't normally happen with SPD.

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    glad to hear of your positive interaction, hope that happens more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hermannr View Post
    they could not let any crisis go unexploited.
    Especially a crisis that wouldn't exist without them. Oh no, someone is exercising their unalienable rights?!? It's a CRISIS! WE MUST ACT! /sigh

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    Or, he was an agent provocateur. Wanted to size you up and put you off your guard at the same time . . .

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    Are you sure it was SPD?? Find out who he was and hire his brother. We can use more Officers like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deanf View Post
    Or, he was an agent provocateur. Wanted to size you up and put you off your guard at the same time . . .
    Or the Spokane OC'ers have stood up to harassment and shown up their illegal behavior so much, that they are on a campaign to prove they are "for OC".

    Or the officer simply is expressing his own personal opinion and don't represent the rest of SPD.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    Or the Spokane OC'ers have stood up to harassment and shown up their illegal behavior so much, that they are on a campaign to prove they are "for OC".

    Or the officer simply is expressing his own personal opinion and don't represent the rest of SPD.
    We have come a long way over here in Spokane and still have along way to go. I remember the City of Spokane refusing to change their no guns in the parks laws a few years ago. We had an OC picnic at Manitoe Park and called the TV stations newspaper etc and one of the news reporters called the Cops on us and the Cops refused to come out. All in all Spokane has been and still is pretty OC friendly. Several of us have OCed for years with a minimum of problems.

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    I think a quick email to the dept to express your thanks for the professionalism of the encounter would be in order even if you don't know the names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carracer View Post
    I think a quick email to the dept to express your thanks for the professionalism of the encounter would be in order even if you don't know the names.
    Absolutely in order. The SPD has a monthly newsletter in which they publish letters/e-mails from citizens. Can't swear a comment on this would make it in but it's worth a try.

    The newsletters are here: http://spokanepolice.org/newsletters/default.aspx

    Contact the editor, Kim Anderson at: kanderson@spokanepolice.org
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    Thanks for the suggestion! I will do that right now.

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    Thanks for the suggestion! I will do that right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deanf View Post
    Or, he was an agent provocateur. Wanted to size you up and put you off your guard at the same time . . .

    Not sure if you meant for that link to go there or not Dean, but I'm glad I clicked on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWhiteLlama View Post
    Not sure if you meant for that link to go there or not Dean, but I'm glad I clicked on it.

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    Oh wow. I did not place that link.

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    deanf,

    I am provoked, that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatwhitellama View Post
    not sure if you meant for that link to go there or not dean, but i'm glad i clicked on it.

    !!! NSFW !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphan View Post
    We have come a long way over here in Spokane and still have along way to go. I remember the City of Spokane refusing to change their no guns in the parks laws a few years ago. We had an OC picnic at Manitoe Park and called the TV stations newspaper etc and one of the news reporters called the Cops on us and the Cops refused to come out. All in all Spokane has been and still is pretty OC friendly. Several of us have OCed for years with a minimum of problems.

    You guys are doing good work keep up the fight!

    Was Manitoe the one I came to? I think after they harassed Bennie?
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    You guys are doing good work keep up the fight!

    Was Manitoe the one I came to? I think after they harassed Bennie?
    That was the one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphan View Post
    That was the one.
    Cool, long drive but worth it, you guys are awesome. And why should you always have to drive to us......

    Wish I could have made it end of last month to your area but have been super swamped.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    Cool, long drive but worth it, you guys are awesome. And why should you always have to drive to us......

    Wish I could have made it end of last month to your area but have been super swamped.
    You missed some good pig, sorry you could not make it.

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