OC'ing restaurant delivery driver in the news

Saturday's Free Lance-Star published a front page (above the fold) article on the recent rash of restaurant delivery driver robberies. Accompanying that article was a photo of a driver clearly openly carrying his Glock .40 caliber pistol.

Mentioned in the article was the heinous robbery that took place in Fredericksburg about 4 years ago, which sparked my own resumption of interest in gun ownership, self-defense, and perhaps most importantly, the legislative process involved with both. The perpetrators of that robbery/murder were caught, and are now in jail for a very long time.

http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/newsdesk/2012/07/06/food-delivery-drivers-stepping-up-safety/

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Photo published on the front page with the article:

Years ago I delivered pizza at night while I worked on starting my business during the day. The owner forbid carrying of any type..... Ironically before becoming an owner of a pizza joint he had managed one and was fired for carrying a firearm while making the nightly bank deposit. Not sure what to think about that :^). I'm sure it has to do with insurance companies, maybe this would be a good legislative initiative to require insurance companies to cover such without prohibitive premium increases???

Neplusultra said:

Years ago I delivered pizza at night while I worked on starting my business during the day. The owner forbid carrying of any type..... Ironically before becoming an owner of a pizza joint he had managed one and was fired for carrying a firearm while making the nightly bank deposit. Not sure what to think about that :^). I'm sure it has to do with insurance companies, maybe this would be a good legislative initiative to require insurance companies to cover such without prohibitive premium increases???

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We have consistently asked businesses and insurance companies to show us the restriction supposedly being imposed by the insurance company - not just for delivery drivers but for just about every activity.

Crickets.

stay safe.

Props to the Spotsylvania Sheriff for offering classes on safety. It would be nice to see/read what they have to say about personal self defense - be it with handguns, pepper spray, or a tire iron. Anybody local going to attend?

stay safe.

It would be my opinion.....

Let me repeat this..... it would be my OPINION.....

..... that this driver wouldn't last 2 days in the city in which I live. The bleeding heart liberals answering their door, with their kids standing behind them, to see a man with a gun delivering their pizza would prompt a series of complaints a pizza shoppe would never tolerate in this area.

I'm all for it :^) I know a lawabiding citizen is giving people pizza, and not possible scouting out homes to rob for his thug friends. :uhoh:

And yet I see a great advertising opportunity for the armed delivery driver. Just need to work out the last glitch so as not to run afoul of the DCJS rules about armed couriers as opposed to armed delivery folk. I think it can be done due to the nature of the item being delivered.

"Neither rain nor snow nor pirates will keep us from delivering your ....."? Sure better than the trouble folks got into trying to meet the "delivered in 30 minutes or it's free" deadline.

stay safe.

I don't live in their delivery area, and generally don't order delivery, but sure would do so to show my support for them.

Maybe they can add ammo delivery to their services.

"Maybe they can add ammo delivery to their services."

Zoom, I think you may be on to something!!!

zoom6zoom said:

Maybe they can add ammo delivery to their services.

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I think OSHA would be all over this like water spots on a black car.

Some employee would have a brain lapse and put a box of ammo in the pizza oven. :lol:

There you go, thinking everybody is just like you.

I have never had a pizza (delivery or pick-up or served at the table) where an unordered item was added. Now there were times when something was left off, but that's not what we are discussing, is it?

stay safe.

Worst case scenario, due to lack of space some employee with an IQ of 80 might stack ammo on top of the pizza ovens. :lol:

Sheriff said:

Worst case scenario, due to lack of space some employee with an IQ of 80 might stack ammo on top of the pizza ovens. :lol:

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As an employee of a pizza chain (not going to say which one), I dislike the policy against carrying while on delivery. BUT I always have it in the car so what they don't know and can't see won't hurt them. Also when I am making my nightly deposit, I always carry no matter what store I am working at. I would rather be fired than lose my life over a couple hundred dollars .....

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.... :lol:

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Just how are they going to get the ammo boxes up there when the space is taken up with boxes of pizzas waiting to be picked up/delivered? You might want to ask your case manager to find you a better sheltered employment position - guesser of catastrophes seems to be beyond your limits.

Just more evidence suggesting that you never get out of the car and go inside anywhere. Drive-thru rulz!

stay safe.

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Just how are they going to get the ammo boxes up there when the space is taken up with boxes of pizzas waiting to be picked up/delivered? You might want to ask your case manager to find you a better sheltered employment position - guesser of catastrophes seems to be beyond your limits.

Just more evidence suggesting that you never get out of the car and go inside anywhere. Drive-thru rulz!

stay safe.

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You're up at 5:30 a.m. in the morning to post this drivel? :lol: :question: :lol:

Sheriff said:

Worst case scenario, due to lack of space some employee with an IQ of 80 might stack ammo on top of the pizza ovens. :lol:

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skidmark said:

Just how are they going to get the ammo boxes up there when the space is taken up with boxes of pizzas waiting to be picked up/delivered? You might want to ask your case manager to find you a better sheltered employment position - guesser of catastrophes seems to be beyond your limits.

Just more evidence suggesting that you never get out of the car and go inside anywhere. Drive-thru rulz!

stay safe.

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You're up at 5:30 a.m. in the morning to post this drivel? :lol: :question: :lol:

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Whose "let's pretend post" was he responding to?

So pizza delivery drivers tend to have a low IQ do they? I know several college grads performing this task until the employment market improves or to supplement the income from their day job.

Insofar as ammo cooking-off on top of an oven, what is the temperature on top where the delivery pizzas are stacked? Doubt it is high enough to be of a concern. Cooked off rounds generally have a very low ballistic factor as the case/brass ruptures.....except in Hollywood movies

In his book "Gunshot Wounds" Vincent Di Maio describes various experiments where ammunition was heated in ovens. He says that .22 long rifle cartridges detonate at an average of 275F, .38 Special at 290F and 12 gauge shotgun shells at 387F. The interesting thing about these furnace experiments was that in all instances the cartridge cases ruptured, but the primers did not detonate. In fact the primers were removed from some of the ruptured cases, reloaded into other brass and fired.

Cooking-Off Cartridges. NRA Illustrated Reloading Handbook. Washington, D.C.: The National Rifle Association of America.

"Gunshot Wounds - practical aspects of firearms, ballistics and forensic techniques" by Vincent Di Maio

Sheepskin does not a intelligent man make.

I don't know many pizza delivery dudes/dudettes. Every one that I do know or have met are likely not the sharpest pizza cutters in the store.

Grapeshot said:

Whose "let's pretend post" was he responding to?

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Mine. :shocker:

The response is valid, no question or comment needed. It was the time of morning that I was questioning.

Is it the temperature outside or something in the water? Here lately some have taken to making demeaning remarks about others. Not exactly a good way to foster positive interaction with potential new "members" much less that the press/media is very active in reading these forums. Would you like to see your remarks quoted?

Guess it is time to remind some of the Forum Rules

We need to stop negatively stereotyping people based on their job, education, age, etc, etc, etc. These are not so subtle personal attacks, bashing. All good people are entitled to the right of personal defense.