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Vegas StrEATS Festival

DooFster

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I would like to arrange a meetup of OC'ing at the Vegas StrEATS Festival this weekend. Last time I was there OC'ing they insisted that I couldn't carry there (even though it is on public property) because "they were serving alcohol". It was a bunch of nonsense in where I had 5 security guards detain me at the entrance of the festival where they were doing "illegal searches" if you want to call it that.

I figured that the more people we have showing up to this festival, the more information we could pass on to others.

More details to follow as we get closer to the weekend...

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Where can I find out more about it? I'm interested, and free in the afternoon/evening so far. I have a vintage military rifle match in the morning.
 

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Well, there you have it. I haven't owned a TV in a decade. Guess I better Goo-, er, Yahoo it.
 

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http://vegasstreats.com/what-is-streats/

Vegas StrEATS is a street food and culture festival hosted every second Saturday in downtown Las Vegas, showcasing the valley’s hottest local food trucks, artists, musicians, & fashion. Presented by Slidin Thru’ in partnership with El Cortez & Insert Coin(s). Each month various food trucks serve up unique gourmet bites along Jackie Gaughan Plaza outside the El Cortez Hotel & Casino. Local Bands, MC’s, & DJ’s provide the soundtrack for the night ranging from indie rock, hip-hop, dubstep, & house music. Graffiti artists & streetwear brands line up vendor row slanging fresh apparel & art. Come experience a bit of homegrown Vegas culture.

Not my usual cup of tea, but i'll take one for the team. Food always helps. I used to work right in that area at 7th & Fremont, and myself and all of my coworkers all OC'd. And that was back in the late 90's. Before Tim got sh.. fixed for us.
 

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Vegas Streats is Located in the beautiful Jackie Gaughan Plaza at the El Cortez Hotel & Casino in the heart of Downtown Las Vegas.
Public property?

EDIT: I just read the OP. He says it is! Is this an affair easily done in the hot afternoon sun or in the evening? Is it shaded?

Fair warning, I think I would like to go, but I don't like crowds. If I'm not in the right mood at the time, I'll bow out.
 
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xxiiiliv

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I've been there once, definitely not for the old and grumpy...lots of teens, wanna be thugs,and just lots of people in general. Good food though. Very little shade
 

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OK... Here's what we will do: How about meet around 5:15-5:30 tonight (just before it starts) to run through a game plan in case we deal with issues with the security guards. Is everyone cool with that (with the exception to VegasPassat, who will be working until 6:30ish)...?

EDIT: Let's meet out front of the El Cortez...
 
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Merlin

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I'm planning to attend, with family in tow.

Maybe wanna pm me a cell # in case I have any trouble locating you?

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OK. As it sits right now, the festival does not allow any firearms on the property. We were asked to leave and then we rolled to Remedy's downtown.

Merlin and my wife got good audio and video footage of our encounter with Metro PD

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Well we determined per Metro PD that the areas where they're hosting it is public property but it is a private event per their permit. Merlin is going to look into it...
 

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http://library.municode.com/HTML/14787/level2/TIT12MIRE_CH12.02SPEV.html

CHAPTER 12.02 - SPECIAL EVENTS


"Special event" means:

(A)
An activity consisting of any of the following events which are not offered on a continuous basis, whether or not a fee is charged for admission, entrance or other participation:

(1)
Competitive or similar athletic activities, such as walking, running or biking races;

(2)
Live musical events or dances;

(3)
Community celebrations and observances;

(4)
Residential block parties;

(5)
Parades;

(6)
Grand openings;

(7)
Fireworks displays;

(8)
Building implosions;

(9)
Circuses or carnivals, as defined in LVMC Chapter 6.19; and

(10)
Other similar types of entertainment or events.

(B)
An open house where the public is charged a fee to attend.

(C)
A temporary event featuring demonstrations or exhibitions or performances where exhibitors demonstrate, display, sell or offer for sale goods, services, shows, displays to the public.

(D)
Any public rendition of music at a location to which members of the public are invited:

(1)
Which is characterized by a persistent, heavily accented beat produced by musicians by means of electronically amplified instruments or equipment; and

(2)
Where the resulting sound pressure level meets or exceeds one hundred ten dB (A-weighted) at thirty feet from the front of the stage at any time during the performance.

(E)
A temporary outdoor commercial event, as defined in Title 19, including a promotional activity, fair, circus, rodeo festival, carnival, arts and crafts fair, tent revival, haunted house, amusement system, or concert that will be conducted at a location other than a stadium, auditorium or other public assembly facility that is designed to accommodate such an event.

(F)
Any other public event in which any public street or right-of-way will be used other than for its normal public use for traffic and other normal right-of-way uses.

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Section F there doesn't seem to be terribly useful, but there is no implication of the public street becoming "not public".

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12.02.140 - Occupancy of certain streets and highways.

Any application for a special event that proposes to occupy any street or highway under the control of the Nevada Department of Transportation must have the approval of that department and any other agency having jurisdiction.

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No mention of the use being granted exclusively.

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12.02.170 - Additional permittee requirements.

Each permittee shall:

(A)
Carry the special event permit upon his person during the conduct of the special event;

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So they failed miserably at this. Now I know for next time. If they can't produce a permit, then don't let them off the hook.

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12.02.230 - Violations.

It is unlawful for any person:


(D)
To carry or be in possession of a weapon at the location of a special event while it is taking place, except as authorized by law or as specified in a special event permit.
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So this is interesting. Preemption would apply here, methinks.

In any case, in the whole section of the municipal code, I could not find anything that make the public street private. I could not find anything that states that they are permitted to demand bag searches. I DID see a section that mentions that they can, as part of their permit, charge a fee. So I am not sure how that works, when the event is held on public property.

The way I am interpreting this, the permit allows them to use the public space for their event. I see nothing in the Munipal Code that says anything about that space being privately held during the validity period of their permit. It is permitting them to have their event, not granting them exclusivity. Yeah, that's the word I was looking for.

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So a quick search of "Vegas Streats" on the CLV website Business License page returns what appear to be very short business licenses, all showing an "Out of Business" status. The operator is probably doing a 1 day business license or something, 'cause there seems to be a unique entry for each month. The name Ricardo Guerrero is listed in several places, along with Slidin Thru LLC. He is listed as the Managing Member of the LLC.

http://www.lvrj.com/business/slidin-thru-ready-to-expand-from-truck-to-restaurants-135308448.html

So the permittee is Slidin Thru LLC, with his name attached. Next time around, they need to be able to produce an event permit on the spot.

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I noticed while we were there that there are two distinct areas of the event, the part that is out on 6th st, which is clearly public property, and a part that runs through what amounts to a sidewalk and parking lot strip that runs between LV Blvd and 6th. That strip of property is owned by Exber, Inc, which is the parent company of the El Cortez. So, for the moment, that section can be reasonably called private property. There might be an argument later that they have conceded their private property rights by allowing it to be a public footpath and parking area (an argument the smut-peddlers have used, successfully), but for now, I'm just going to concern myself with the 6th st part.

So, the fencing was set up such that you had to go through a search to get into the event area, but it routed you directly into the Private Property (Exber) part. You can't access the 6th St part without going through the private property area, which I think could probably be remedied.

So, I think the bottom line here is whether the event permit grants them exclusive right to control access to what would normally be public property. If it does, then this is not an OC issue, it's a "And just who the hell thought THAT would be okay" kind of problem. I'm gonna email the Permit office and ask them about the exclusivity part, and see what they say. We'll go from there.
 
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