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    Combs case news coverage- Jury reaction & analysis Channel 7 5:45 & 6pm

    @ 5:45 they will have their legal analyst talk about the case and the "open carry law"

    at 6pm they will have a reaction from the jury

    this is channel 7, wxyz
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    thanks. wish my TV was hooked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detroit_fan View Post
    @ 5:45 they will have their legal analyst talk about the case and the "open carry law"

    at 6pm they will have a reaction from the jury

    this is channel 7, wxyz
    Fox 2 spoke to jurors at six who said they didn't agree with OC but they followed the law!Imagine that! 2 of em said the legislature should re-visit the law! It all came out right despite anti-OC jurors! This IS the USA after all!!Thanks Sean!! CARRY ON!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamaneggs View Post
    Fox 2 spoke to jurors at six who said they didn't agree with OC but they followed the law!Imagine that! 2 of em said the legislature should re-visit the law! It all came out right despite anti-OC jurors! This IS the USA after all!!Thanks Sean!! CARRY ON!
    yeah, but at 5:45 on their "legal analysis" segment they really botched it imo. of course they named all the places you can't OC without a cpl, but never mentioned the cpl exemption to those places.
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    Thats intentional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Thats intentional.
    i know, but it still pi$$es me off
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    Quote Originally Posted by detroit_fan View Post
    i know, but it still pi$$es me off
    Thats why it pi$$es me off.

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    I wrote a quick article on the Combs verdict today. I am super happy for Sean and for Michigan!!! Way to go jury!

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    Michigan court rules in favor of teen who open carried rifle
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    Sean M. Combs is only 18 but he already knows more about civil rights and Michigan gun laws than the officers who arrested him in April for carrying an antique M1 Garand rifle slung over his shoulder.

    The two officers, Rebekah Springer and Gina Potts, saw Combs carrying the rifle in Troy Michigan and demanded his ID. When he refused, noting that he was not violating any laws, he was arrested and charged with Brandishing, Disturbing the Peace, and Obstructing an Officer.

    I have written before about the misuse of these “catch-all” charges to chill the rights of citizens and this case appears no different.

    Excerpt ... Read more at http://monachuslex.com/?p=1308

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    Thumbs up

    Thanks again for letting us cover this issue, considering the LGOC portion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Thanks again for letting us cover this issue, considering the LGOC portion.
    +1, this was an important case and i'm happy you let us discuss it here.

    the one thing that kinda disappoints me is he was asked if he planned to continue to OC and said not right now. obviously that is his choice, but it kinda gives the impression that what he did was wrong, even if not illegal.
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    john, good article. i know you say at the bottom of your article that the isreali pic isn't relevant, but it does show that LGOC or OC in general is perfectly acceptable in the most mundane situations in other parts of the world. switzerland would be another example (even though their OC is primarily or maybe solely militia)
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    Quote Originally Posted by detroit_fan View Post
    +1, this was an important case and i'm happy you let us discuss it here.

    the one thing that kinda disappoints me is he was asked if he planned to continue to OC and said not right now. obviously that is his choice, but it kinda gives the impression that what he did was wrong, even if not illegal.
    I would guess his attorney told him to lay low until after all the legal is done, including civil action. I doubt it will be the last of this young man's OCing. Hopefully the police return his rifle promptly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    I would guess his attorney told him to lay low until after all the legal is done, including civil action. I doubt it will be the last of this young man's OCing. Hopefully the police return his rifle promptly.
    the news said the city hasn't said whether they will appeal or not, so they are keeping his rifle for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by detroit_fan View Post
    the news said the city hasn't said whether they will appeal or not, so they are keeping his rifle for now.
    How in the heck can they appeal a not guilty! That would be double jeopardy, the only thing they can appeal is the judges ruling on the charge dropped, and I doubt they get anywhere with that. And the obstructing charge has nothing to do with the rifle, they are stonewalling, or just being babies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detroit_fan View Post
    +1, this was an important case and i'm happy you let us discuss it here.

    the one thing that kinda disappoints me is he was asked if he planned to continue to OC and said not right now. obviously that is his choice, but it kinda gives the impression that what he did was wrong, even if not illegal.
    Maybe he's just waiting until he can get a pistol.
    The worst weapon is the human mind, its created and done things far worse than a gun can, has, or ever will. Its the human mind that tells the gun what to do and animates the inanimate object.

    With all these gun control laws in place I have yet to find a single one that has saved someones life, but I can find hundreds of stories where a gun has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Thanks again for letting us cover this issue, considering the LGOC portion.
    No problem. This was an important case and Sean didn't need to have baseless charges ruin his future!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yance View Post
    Maybe he's just waiting until he can get a pistol.
    Q has a nice one for a good price, no need to wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detroit_fan View Post
    the one thing that kinda disappoints me is he was asked if he planned to continue to OC and said not right now. obviously that is his choice, but it kinda gives the impression that what he did was wrong, even if not illegal.
    I saw that as well. I think he was really shaken up by the experience and just wants some time to recover. As mentioned by others, I also think his attorney is having him play it cool for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Administrator View Post
    I wrote a quick article on the Combs verdict today. . . .
    Very good article, John.

    In the comments, part of your reply to another commenter was, "I don’t know that the officer’s actions went far enough to see him recover under 1983 unfortunately."

    I don't disagree with you. But I do believe the officers' should at least taste the salty tang of anxiety in their mouths that only a legal document naming you as defendant in a civil rights violation case can give. It should give them, and their fellow officers, a bit of pause in the future when dealing with perfectly law-abiding citizens.

    Like so much about our justice system, the deterrent effect is of equal consideration to actual punishment of offenders.

    I know you neither took a position for nor against a civil suit. This is just to put my view out there. I advocate that civil suits be liberally applied to officers, in any situation in which it is probable a civil rights violation occurred. If only for the deterrent effect alone.
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    Congrats to Sean on the verdict. Having never been in that defendants seat myself I can just imagine the range of emotions he has gone through. For anyone here to advocate that he bring suit himself for redress of their wrong doing is a streach for us because ONLY HE can deciede that , and it also takes money to do that. He's 18 and probably doesn't have much in the bank, like some of us 'older' fellas here. When the time comes I'm sure we can all find some extra change to donate to that cause should it come to pass. Sure, I would sue them in a heart beat if it were me, I have the money and the time to invest, and I will pony up something for his suit if he wishes to bring one, and I hope others will too.

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    Great news. Also great article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Administrator View Post
    I wrote a quick article on the Combs verdict today. I am super happy for Sean and for Michigan!!! Way to go jury!

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    Michigan court rules in favor of teen who open carried rifle
    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    Sean M. Combs is only 18 but he already knows more about civil rights and Michigan gun laws than the officers who arrested him in April for carrying an antique M1 Garand rifle slung over his shoulder.

    The two officers, Rebekah Springer and Gina Potts, saw Combs carrying the rifle in Troy Michigan and demanded his ID. When he refused, noting that he was not violating any laws, he was arrested and charged with Brandishing, Disturbing the Peace, and Obstructing an Officer.

    I have written before about the misuse of these “catch-all” charges to chill the rights of citizens and this case appears no different.

    Excerpt ... Read more at http://monachuslex.com/?p=1308
    He resides in Troy, MI. The incident took place in Birmingham, MI.
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