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Chesterfield Cops and DA Say Carrying Loaded Gun in Chesterfield County Parks ILLEGAL
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TFred
Regular Member
If I recall correctly, titles are not a part of the statute. And since this statute does not specifically address hunting, it is in clear violation of 15.2-915, as there is no correlating section anywhere in the Code of Virgina that expressly authorizes this ordinance.
TFred
VCDL President
Centurion
VCDL on it
As most know from Friday's alert, I am working the Chesterfield park issue. Actually there are two issues - the other is that the agreement for using the park pavilions says "no guns." This is further along (I started this ball rolling quietly a couple of weeks ago by coincidence) and is already in front of the County Attorney. Parks were very responsive on this.
My suggestion is let me work on the ordinance for now. I might call for a turnout when it comes before the Board of Supervisors. I would like to have a picnic in a Chesterfield park as soon as we have this resolved to celebrate it. In the extremely unlikely event that Chesterfield digs in its heals, we'll have a protest picnic instead.
We'll know soon if this is going to be a smooth or bumpy ride.
As most know from Friday's alert, I am working the Chesterfield park issue. Actually there are two issues - the other is that the agreement for using the park pavilions says "no guns." This is further along (I started this ball rolling quietly a couple of weeks ago by coincidence) and is already in front of the County Attorney. Parks were very responsive on this.
My suggestion is let me work on the ordinance for now. I might call for a turnout when it comes before the Board of Supervisors. I would like to have a picnic in a Chesterfield park as soon as we have this resolved to celebrate it. In the extremely unlikely event that Chesterfield digs in its heals, we'll have a protest picnic instead.
We'll know soon if this is going to be a smooth or bumpy ride.
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Thanks Philip!
Please keep us informed of the progress.
It's still a good idea to keep 8/4 penciled in...
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Riverdance
Regular Member
Police OC interactions in Chesterfield Parks
I've had interactions with police in Chesterfield parks on occasion over the years. All have been positive, although I had to explain single action 1911s to one who nervously warned my trigger was back. Guess it depends on the cop and his knowledge of the law.
I've had interactions with police in Chesterfield parks on occasion over the years. All have been positive, although I had to explain single action 1911s to one who nervously warned my trigger was back. Guess it depends on the cop and his knowledge of the law.
richarcm
Regular Member
SFCRetired
Regular Member
Fixed it for you.
Wouldn't be surprised if the original wording was correct. I've had several people use the same wording to me concerning my .45, to include a couple of LEOs who should have known better.
Good luck to y'all in Virginia. We're having a similar issue down here, but not quite as far along.
Philip, I certainly hope you aren't going to assist or even suggest rewriting the law.
What Chesterfield has is unlawful, illegal, not in compliance with Virginia Law....period. It needs to be taken off the books. VCDL by it's own admission doesn't represent hunters. Please just work to have the existing law removed from the books and let hunters deal with the county on hunting issues.
What Chesterfield has is unlawful, illegal, not in compliance with Virginia Law....period. It needs to be taken off the books. VCDL by it's own admission doesn't represent hunters. Please just work to have the existing law removed from the books and let hunters deal with the county on hunting issues.
riverrat10k
Regular Member
I'm up for a picnic anywhere in Chesterfield.
Right now I'm in a wait until next week, holding pattern RR.
You would know that if you hadn't played hooky this morning
riverrat10k
Regular Member
I read the thread. Just throwin' my hat in the ring.
You should know by now, the thread is just window dressing.:lol:
paramedic70002
Regular Member
Just out of curiosity, is there a tome/repository of exceptions that the GA gives to localities in exception of preemption, or are they scattered about the VA Code and VAC willy nilly?
TFred
Regular Member
There is no official list that I am aware of, but they make it pretty easy to find them in the Code, because 15.2-915 states that any exemptions must specifically refer to firearms:
"For purposes of this section, a statute that does not refer to firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, shall not be construed to provide express authorization."
Those key words can be used in your search.
TFred
So have I. I've only talked with one officer while carrying in a park, but have seen quite a few while visiting. Mostly in Huguenot Park where I visit fairly frequently. If I'm in town I'd love to stop by for a picnic.