DanM
Regular Member
Hee Hee...now that's funny!
I guess no one wants on my list...:uhoh:
And "Fear The Hat!" should be your bumper-sticker.
Hee Hee...now that's funny!
I guess no one wants on my list...:uhoh:
My very good friend.... I understand why folks would become discouraged and stop posting. But I have a different perspective that perhaps might help.............
As long as I stay away, if I don't oppose the BS, then... the arseholes win.
My very good friend.... I understand why folks would become discouraged and stop posting. But I have a different perspective that perhaps might help.............
As long as I stay away, if I don't oppose the BS, then... the arseholes win.
And again I understand your perspective my friend (when we going to lunch? I think it's my turn to buy.) but again I have a different perspective in that peeing matches generally spew all sorts of misinformation and bad information that, if unchecked or not challenged, will be read.. and believed.. by some poor schmuck new to this whole thing. I know.. I used to be that schmuck.. and sometimes still am.Involved yes. Not joining the ******* matches and worthless bashing discussions...no.
I miss the old days of true discussion of trying to solve a problem and lay out a valid response plan. Don't see it happening much anymore; just armchair quarterbacks complaining about what should/not have been done.
BTW: the ole "hat" was retired and the new hat has yet to build it's reputation.
Involved yes. Not joining the ******* matches and worthless bashing discussions...no.
I miss the old days of true discussion of trying to solve a problem and lay out a valid response plan. Don't see it happening much anymore; just armchair quarterbacks complaining about what should/not have been done.
BTW: the ole "hat" was retired and the new hat has yet to build it's reputation.
We do have productive discussions here, you just have to learn how to fly through the flack, and see through the smoke.
My opinions are not worth the effort.
I find your opinions to have great worth... well.... all except your opinion of what is a good looking hat.:lol:I do know how and used to do just that. I'm saying it is no longer worth my time and effort to do so. My opinions are not worth the effort.
I find your opinions to have great worth... well.... all except your opinion of what is a good looking hat.:lol:
Especially not the new one! At least the old one had an "air" about it.Well I never... not even the new one? :uhoh:
It is sad to read of people leaving.
The phrase "an armed society is a polite society" is unfortunately a lie. The community seems to look up to these type of people and they tend to hold various leadership roles. I'm quite content going solo. I would rather have a lack of support than an abundance of discouragement.
That's all I'll say about that.
While the repeated personal attacks are unnecessary I know why they happen. The leaders of various groups constantly get attacked themselves about the antics of the persons they attack. This is not an excuse but rather I do understand unfortunately.
i think its excessive, i know of a few people that dont come to ocdo simply because of the nonsense that many users here partake in(that is, constant personal attacks, luckily the worst offenders have been banned)
and i know that alot of old regulars stopped posting because of the bickering, mikestilly, kimberguy, kyleplusitunes and thway just to name a few.
stainless very rarely, if ever, resorts to personal attacks even though nearly every post he makes garners at least one personal attack against him. He has always tried to stay true to the topic even when his views are not popular, and many of the people bickering about him say/do the same or similar things and then blow up when somebody even suggests that they're view is inappropriate.
its mostly the "elitist" group that does it...the guys that are making $25+ an hour, a $600+ gun and always dress business casual at "worst" and think that anything less is unacceptable in public, especially for open carry....its those guys, both in and out of gun rights organization leadership roles that are bad for the public image.
also note that most of those "elite" have histories many would deem more objectionable than that of stainless...prone to verbal fits of rage,extreme perverseness, history of verbal threats, compulsive liars, history of stalking former spouses, alcohol abuse...those are just some of the histories of those elitists when compared to stainless's supposed CC in no-cc zone.
many people act like stainless is the only one with stinky sh*t, when in reality most of them have sh*t that stinks twice as bad if not worse.
btw,MP9, kimberguy still is a regular lurker, just barely posts...