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Who will win in November?
- Thread starter derhammer
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Ca Patriot
Regular Member
Actually outsourcing has always been going on. Under Bush Sr and Clinton is when it really exploded to China.
If you want jobs to come back to America then get the government out of the equation and lower costs for American businesses.
Sure enough, that's what needs to happen, but we know it won't. Taking themselves out of the equation would take big money from their pockets, and would bring them down from self legislated gods to citizens.
Jack House
Regular Member
PrayingForWar
Founder's Club Member
We shall say NEEE!! again to you, if you do not vote for owebama...
PrayingForWar
Founder's Club Member
JoeSparky
Centurion
A post I can agree with! We didn't get into this mess in a single election and it will take more than one election to change our country back to it's intended small government libertarian principles where an individual was allowed to buy or own property and guns without having to get permission from some government entity!
OC for ME
Regular Member
I can purchase and then own property without government permission. To retain that property without paying a tax is a different matter. I can purchase and then own firearms and ammunition without government permission. No tax required to purchase then own. Though, I gotta pay a tax to purchase ammo, then pay a tax to reload ammo due to the consumable items that must be purchased.
So, how visible to the gubmint and its
(revenuers) do you wish to be?
So, how visible to the gubmint and its
(revenuers) do you wish to be?
Beretta92FSLady
Regular Member
You own zero! All things are owned by the Government. You are merely permitted to hold the property, that is, as long as you pay a fee (tax), and/or as long as the Government doesn't decide to take the property back (adverse possession). *takes cover*
OC for ME
Regular Member
Since I work for Da Gubmint, seven months out of 12, as soon as I'm done in MO I'll be out your way. Just have your stuff boxed up and ready to go. I'll send back the stuff I don't want or need, or otherwise sell on eBay.
OC for ME
Regular Member
....oh, I forgot, your stuff includes your kids....have one of those paper name tags on a string affixed to each kid.
Beretta92FSLady
Regular Member
If it was the case that the Government wanted to take my kids from me, or take my guns, or take my truck, hell, take my clothes (hope not!), it's not as if I would have any control over it.
The Government can come into your home, and even take your life, and there is nothing you can do about it except resist in those fleeting moment of your life before your dead.
Hell, there's a post regarding the Government breaking down a persons door, the homeowner is shot, and killed, and even people on this forum state, "It's unfortunate on both sides." It's funny, can't make this crappola up. Do you think if that Government came into your home, wrong address, wrong everything, you took to defend yourself because you're a law abiding citizen, and killed you, do you think even people on this forum are going to more than bat and eye at it? Nope!
All of the talk about standing up for so-called Rights, is, well, Talk, period.
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OC for ME
Regular Member
Why do you care? You'd be room temperature.
Beretta92FSLady
Regular Member
Exactly.
derhammer
Regular Member
I think this country is heading down the tubes, so the only real question this election is basically this: Do we want to try and crash things faster, and get on with it, or do we want to try and slow things up a bit, and have more time to prepare? Obama, not having to worry about re-election this time, would go all-out with his agenda, and take this country down the dark road faster. Romney would be worrying about re-election, and also wanting to distance himself from Obama's destruction, so he would take us along the path a bit slower. There are merits and arguments for both paths.
Personally, I think I need a bit more time to prep, since I only just turned 18 this year, have no weaponry, no ammo, no gear - I am the first in my family to bother getting ready for any collapse. Therefore, a Romney victory may serve me a bit better.
-derhammer
Personally, I think I need a bit more time to prep, since I only just turned 18 this year, have no weaponry, no ammo, no gear - I am the first in my family to bother getting ready for any collapse. Therefore, a Romney victory may serve me a bit better.
-derhammer
since9
Campaign Veteran
Cool your jets, jetson.
since9
Campaign Veteran
derhammer
Regular Member
No, these FEMA camps:
[video=youtube;3Qx20LA4PM0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qx20LA4PM0[/video]
Seriously, maybe it's true, maybe it's not, but isn't there enough evidence that we should be prepared? Do you really trust the government that much that what's shown in this video doesn't scare you in the least? Do you really think they couldn't come up with a convincing, verifiable cover story for whatever they wanted to do?
-derhammer
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Beretta92FSLady
Regular Member
There is so much fear-mongering rhetoric about gun confiscation, and the individuals being lined up to gas chambers, yet there are plenty of gun-free, or severely restricted firearms laws in other States that are not slaughtering their people, and the people have a much better quality, and quantity of life.--not implying there is a correlation between firearms restrictions and quality and quantity of life; just an example.
America is a pro-gun State, there's no need to be paranoid, and slop fear-mongering crapola about. Being rational, and reasonable goes a long way.
derhammer
Regular Member
So investigating facts and warning about possibilities is "slopping fear-mongering crapola about?" I call it being vigilant. Will you at least admit that some of what was uncovered in that video was rather disturbing and warrants raised watchfulness?
-derhammer
-derhammer