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    silly shoulder holster question

    Does anyone use a shoulder holster for open carry?

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    Not I. OWB (level III retention) FTW.

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    I agree with TheQ. Level 3 retention is ideal, especially for a more populated area. Level 2 is okay for less populated areas, or for lower risk OCing.

    Safariland is the only brand I suggest for retention holsters.
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    I also have been interested in shoulder carry holsters however do not like the idea of being without a retention holster. I own a blackhawk serpa level 2 retention holster and love it. However, as mentioned in the previous post, it does make me a bit nervous when around a large group of people or in a busy bar, store etc. I'm always on my toes and have yet to have anyone come close to my sidearm without my consent. Have a great one,

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    Yes on ocassion. A trusty VERTICLE one with a thumbreak works well for backup GLOCK - best retention device known to man is between your ears. This is why some who post here need a level 99 holster.

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    I have a friend who does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    I have a friend who does.
    Does what? Need a level 99 rig - use a level 99 holster, or uses a vertical shoulder holster? The devil is in the details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raggs View Post
    Does anyone use a shoulder holster for open carry?
    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    I have a friend who does.
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    Last edited by stainless1911; 07-26-2012 at 10:20 AM.

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    I have if its the only holster I have, only done it once or twice though. I use one for CC in the winter/fall.

    However, those of you Serpa guys who don't want one without retention:


    http://www.blackhawk.com/product/CQC...ness,94,82.htm

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    Looks scary. Someone could get Tex Grebner'd from behind, perhaps after the carriers elbow gets blown off.
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    Hey carry what you like, however in my humble opinion serpa and glocks requirer lot's of practice, why? There is a natural tendency to slap the release with the trigger finger while drawing, which if done hastily can put it in the just below where it should be and into the trigger area. ND waiting to happen without constant drills.

    Many people use them, and like them. I have and do not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michigander View Post
    I agree with TheQ. Level 3 retention is ideal, especially for a more populated area. Level 2 is okay for less populated areas, or for lower risk OCing.

    Safariland is the only brand I suggest for retention holsters.
    I carry the ALS + Guard. If the situation calls for less retention, I can push the guard knob down and leave it that way.

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    People have stated RE horizontal shoulder holsters that other people get concerned looking down the barrel of your gun and seeing the bullet.


    Right or wrong, it's something to keep in mind. After all, in the Adisha Miller case DPD is doing their best to claim the gun just went off by itself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQ View Post
    I carry the ALS + Guard. If the situation calls for less retention, I can push the guard knob down and leave it that way.
    The nice thing about the ALS is that most people who see it wouldn't even know it had a retention mechanism. I don't think I'd want to carry an ALS by itself to a crowded stadium, or the Dream Cruise or something, but it still makes quite a case for level 2 retention being all you need. And in many cases for less than 50 bucks shipped. Adding the guard on top of that is definitely a nice way to go. Faster than the SLS too.
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    galco

    I have a galco horizontal carry shoulder holster, will be a while before i open carry though, need a better platform. I do however find the shoulder rig comfortable to wear.

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    I have the same rig. Nice and comfy for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Creamsicle View Post
    I have the same rig. Nice and comfy for me
    But not a great open carry choice which is sad

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    Why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Why not?
    Because wearing it open would be uncomfortable to me, and as TheQ pointed out a horizontal holster may make people a little more uncomfortable than i would like. But what does everyone else think? the galco which uses a thumb-break retention method, good for open or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raggs View Post
    But not a great open carry choice which is sad
    One thing it does have going for it is that a grab attempt would just about require the grabber to come right in front of you to focus on the gun, in the mean time you could punch him in the nose, gouge his eyes, and do whatever other techniques would be required. I'd think it'd be considerably easier to defend than non retention strong side carry.

    With the affordable price of high quality holsters like theq has, I wouldn't let it slide too long, but it'll do if it has to.
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    If you are open, you want to be seen, antis are going to be uncomfortable either way. Better to carry then not. You can get a Serpa for 30 to get you going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Better to carry then not.
    I carry now using a Galco Royal Guard IWB, great for concealed. I also wear the miami rig under a shirt on occasion. Just dont open carry atm, building up my nerve I guess.

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    I forgot you had a CPL

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    I forgot you had a CPL
    no worries, Mainly trying to get comfortable with the idea of carrying open in general and being able to carry in PFZ open with a CPL seems to be a good idea as well. Perhaps setting up a buddy system for newbies like myself would be a possibility, just a thought.

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    Well, it is common for a new-b to go on a field trip with a seasoned OCer. All you have to do is ask.

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