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    Have heard from police departments regardin bloomberg's strike idea?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TKZO...eature=related

    I have not heard any PDs calling him out.

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    I think, were Bloomie's national LEO strike to actually happen, that suddenly the fudds that think guns are only for hunting and the people that are on-the-fence about owning guns and many of those that oppose gun ownership period would go . Then the shelves at gun stores go bare of anything with any SD value, gun ownership across the country increases several fold and crime only increases in the predictable areas of the country while going down dramatically on a national scale.

    Sometimes its fun the imagine the unintended consequences of stuff like this...

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    if they would go on strike, it would probably show how little we need them.
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    Found this on Officer.com

    Rebuttal to Mayor Bloomberg



    Rebuttal to Mayor Bloomberg
    by Frank Borelli
    Created: July 24, 2012
    Mayor Bloomberg: your arrogance and ego are your undoing. We law enforcement professionals don't take the oath and perform our duty for any political purpose. We put on that uniform, pin on that badge, strap on that gun and go out into our communities...
    No right is held more sacred, or is more carefully guarded, by the common law than the right of every individual to the possession and control of his own person, free from all restraint or interference of others, unless by clear and unquestionable authority of law. Union Pacific Rail Co. vs Botsford as quoted in Terry v Ohio.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ak56 View Post
    Found this on Officer.com

    Rebuttal to Mayor Bloomberg
    wow 1 cop out of 1 million .... good for this policeman ... hope he has found a new job ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnett3006 View Post
    I think, were Bloomie's national LEO strike to actually happen, that suddenly the fudds that think guns are only for hunting and the people that are on-the-fence about owning guns and many of those that oppose gun ownership period would go . Then the shelves at gun stores go bare of anything with any SD value, gun ownership across the country increases several fold and crime only increases in the predictable areas of the country while going down dramatically on a national scale.

    Sometimes its fun the imagine the unintended consequences of stuff like this...
    Ain't that the truth.
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    First, we law enforcement professionals take an oath. That oath includes promising to fairly and impartially enforce the laws of our city, county and state. That oath includes obeying and/or protecting the Constitution of the United States (which contains that thing called the 2nd Amendment if you remember correctly).

    Geez if only this were true.... If it is then ALL cops who violate that oath should be out of a job the same day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1Man View Post
    Geez if only this were true.... If it is then ALL cops who violate that oath should be out of a job the same day.
    Its actually a meaningless oath that they take. There are no criminal penalties for non-performance. With the military, you can be jailed. Laws, regulations, etc. that have no penalty are not mandatory .. same with oaths taken by policemen or anyone else who takes an oath where there are no penalties for non-performance. And losing a job is not a penalty. I never tell cops that they are non-performing their oath -- because the oath is meaningless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Its actually a meaningless oath that they take. There are no criminal penalties for non-performance. With the military, you can be jailed. Laws, regulations, etc. that have no penalty are not mandatory .. same with oaths taken by policemen or anyone else who takes an oath where there are no penalties for non-performance. And losing a job is not a penalty. I never tell cops that they are non-performing their oath -- because the oath is meaningless.
    Please, please don't dash my dreams....

    I know that they are, in effect, meaningless. I was just being optimistic for a change.
    Provision for free medical attendance and nursing, for clothing, for food, for housing, for the education of children, and a hundred other matters, might with equal propriety be proposed as tending to relieve the employee of mental strain and worry. --- These matters obviously lie outside the orbit of congressional power. (Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad)

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Its actually a meaningless oath that they take. There are no criminal penalties for non-performance. With the military, you can be jailed.
    Members of the military wouldn't be jailed for failing to protect and defend the Constitution. They'd be jailed for failing to follow orders.

    Regardless, most of the members of the military I knew took their oaths seriously.
    The First protects the Second, and the Second protects the First. Together, they protect the rest of our Bill of Rights and our United States Constitution, and help We the People protect ourselves in the spirit of our Declaration of Independence.

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    The point is that cops are, by law, prevented from going out on strike. Every one of the 57 states and DC has some form of law saying certain public safety employees (or all, in some states) cannot strike. A large number of those laws include calling for a strike or encouraging other covered employees to go on strike as prohibited activities.

    This is why you hear about "the blue flu" occassionally hitting a police or fire department. Being sick is not against the law. But you never see cops or firefighters walking a picket line because they feel that would be "beneath" them - you don't see them walking the line because it is illegal and they know they can be fired for doing so and that firing will probably stick.

    Many states have laws that prohibit public employees from campaigning for either a specific candidate or for a specific proposal as public employees. Joe Shmoe, who happens to be a cop, can campaign for Bloomy while he is off duty and out of uniform as long as he does not use the fact that he is a cop as part of his campaigning activity. Jane Doe cannot campaign for Bloomy while in uniform regardless whether she is on or off duty.

    The thing is, Bloomy has learned how to use magic words - no cop will ever be against anything that increases "officer safety" no matter how outrageous the notion might be. If nothing else they will look for a way to modify the idea so it is not quite as outrageous as the original.

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    Drivel from officer Borelli.
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    why limit the strike to police officers?

    How about other government employees? Then we can find out exactly how few we really need -- so it will never happen.
    If something is wrong for ONE person to do to another, it is still wrong if a BILLION people do it.

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