So I had watched the preview which you posted, and today I watched the full show. I get where Kevin is coming from but thinking about how he appeals to the other side he should have been there at the station. Yes I don't agree with with disarming but for the sake of the argument he should have been there. (I'm not trying to bash on him in anyway.) I think Kevin is a person with a lot of knowledge and wisdom. The other thing was that he needed to let Penny talk her way into her own traps she gave plenty of opportunity for proving her thoughts false, he just needed to let it happen instead of talking over. I totally agree with his opinions about what she had stated on her thoughts. Now on to Penny, she had no argument to begin with. Just her thoughts, which Kevin did a good job of proving that guns nor ammo kill people. She had also stated that she did not want to ban rifles or handguns, however she wanted to ban "AR-15's" (assualt Rifle) and high capacity magazines as well as semi automatic weapons. Most people that carry carry a semi auto because of reliability, but she says she doesn't want to effect the right to defense. She also got all of her statements from media, media is never as accurate as it should be; there is always an agenda either way you lean. She closed the show with her thoughts on poverty, domestic violence, gang violence, and mental health issues. What did you plan on arguing Penny? She was reaching as far as she could for any sympathy votes from the left side, especially with the sorrows to Aurora. Everyone feels bad not just the anti-gun lobby. You came into debate legal people buying legal guns, now your reaching into mental health problems which most gun owners do not have a problem with. Figure out your argument because your argument is headed in too many directions and it will only apply to the weakest of the weak minded people. anyone with a brain could have dissected your defense. On to Katu's show "your voice your opinion." Your polls are very weak in the fact that they lean into the anti-gun lobby's agenda. There is no other side to your poll. The other problem I had is that you picked somebody from the anti-gun lobby that is so contradicting of herself it wasn't even a fair fight, she had no plan to state facts it was all opinions. Pick somebody that knows what they are talking about.