Thread: Anyone else hear about this??
I would look up the actual law that was passed but I don't think he even referenced it. I bet its just a law to easily evict scum that is destroying public or private property in the name of "protest".
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I am absolutely for it. Gasp! But why Captain, do you hate America? No, I hate the low life scums that use these "protest" as excuse to be thugs and steal from local stores. It seems these days every time I hear about a protest, I hear about looting. If you can recall a recent incident with an officer shooting an unarmed man.. Yup, there was a protest. If I recall the numbers correctly, 24 local businesses were broken into and looted during the protest. Now, what exactly does the looting have to do with the shooting? Did that local business, who was probably a hard working American trying to make a living, have anything to do with the shooting? Ah, no but I bet the plasma tvs people stole from his shop did! That must be it!
Most of these protests are nothing more than hooligans trying to be cool hipsters. Destroying public property or local stores is criminal, straight up. I bet half the people at these protest don't even really know what its about. Have something you truly feel like protesting? That you feel, in your heart, is wrong? Then thats okay! Speak your mind and let others hear you. Just be careful what you let it turn into.
You say you are for the law because you say you want it applied to thugs who hide behind "protests" to commit illegal acts. How come you are not satisfied with the laws already on the books about not committing those crimes? Would you explain to me why a new law was needed in order to enforce already-existing laws?
I'll wait till you respond to that before I ask you to explain how this new law avoids the slippery slope of restricting the right to assemble and to seek redress to the point of eliminating those rights.
"He'll regret it to his dying day....if ever he lives that long."----The Quiet Man
Because stupidity isn't a race, and everybody can win.
"No matter how much contempt you have for the media in all this, you don't have enough"
Every time I hear someone say, "There ought to be a law _____"
Another part of my libertarian soul dies...
Thanks for that, Cap'n
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." - Mark Twain
I don't bother with pragmatic statistics while discussing my constitutional rights. The issue is far less complex, to me. Free men should be able to act like free men.
No, we enforce property laws and fight crime as usual. We do NOT prohibit political speech and peaceful assembly.
The problem with Occupy and several other "protest" events was that many of the people were not legitimately protesting a cause, but we're protesting as a career. And as pointed out, there is a hooligan element that develops. Add to that tyranny of the masses (lynch mob mentality) and its a formula for public danger.
What we may want is a simple set of (flexible) rules that prohibit ongoing living in public spaces. Once people move in and set up semi-permanent cities, it's not really a protest.
I am still trying to figure out how congress believes it has the rights to make many of the laws they do. Have they not read the very constitution they swore an oath to uphold?
This cliche'd image of ninjas with guns atop buildings is not a screen shot from a movie. It was a photo taken during the LA riots. Korean shopkeepers armed themselves with every weapon they had, fortified their shops and very successfully defended themselves from looters and other criminals during the riots.
Who needs police when you have a group of citizens willing to arm themselves in defense of person and property against a few criminals? These Korean shopkeepers certainly didn't. Which is good, because there were no cops to protect them, despite being a priority target of many looters.
Originally Posted by David JooOriginally Posted by Carl RhyuOriginally Posted by Jay Rhee
We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force. -Ayn Rand
ya know.....we need a law that makes murder illegal.....the existing one(s) don't seem to be working.
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
the best law they could make is one CRIMINALS will follow...............................oh wait thats what they have been trying to do.
It doesn't work to make new laws everytime something goes wrong, what will work is to stand up to the offenders and let them know we will not be pushed around by friend or foe! fight crime and don't watch it happen.
People think the police know how to prevent crime, so they listen to them. Problem is, they don't know nor believe in the concept of "rights". Which gets us to the idea that the police could better protect us (from ourselves) if we were disarmed. Maybe it makes some sense to people in heavily populated areas with significant police presence, but not so much anywhere else.
It is truly a fatal error to let the police decide public policy and craft laws.
Laws should be made like consensus standards (and like most federal regs), only after input from all interested parties is considered. Any single, significant objection can kill a new regulation, or at least a provision within a rule.
The media definitely demonized them a lot, calling them vigilantes and claiming they opened fire first. That's what the David Joo quote is about, the media was reporting they fired first, when in reality two women had been shot by the looters and that's why they opened fire.
Last edited by KYGlockster; 08-07-2012 at 05:46 PM.
"I never in my life seen a Kentuckian without a gun..."-Andrew Jackson
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined."-Patrick Henry; speaking of protecting the rights of an armed citizenry.