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    50 state open carry reference chart?

    Looking for a chart the show what states it's ok to OC/CC with/without a MI CPL. Also what areas are on/off limits with/without the CPL?

    My Google foo is weak this morning.

    Found the OC Map here
    http://opencarry.org/opencarry.html

    But looking for a Excel type chart with the info.
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    WARCHILD made a great one for Michigan, but I dont know of one for all 50 states.

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    Permitless Vehicle Carry

    Alaska
    Arizona
    California .............................Unloaded and in plain veiw
    Colorado
    Delaware ............................. Plain view
    Florida
    Georgia
    Idaho ...................................Not concealed in city, must be OC unless unloaded
    Kansas ................................. Plain View but no preemption
    Kentucky
    Louisianna
    Mississippi
    Missouri
    Montana
    Nebraska ................................plain view
    Nevada
    New Mexico
    North Carolina .....................Plain view
    Oregon ............................... Plain Veiw
    South Carolina....................... Concealed, and in specified locations in the vehicle
    South Dakota .......................Plain veiw
    Texas Concealed
    Utah................Your vehicle, or with consent
    Vermont
    West Virginia ..............................Residents Only, plain view
    Wyoming..........................Not CC on person
    Last edited by stainless1911; 08-04-2012 at 10:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Alaska
    Arizona
    California .............................Unloaded and in plain veiw
    Colorado
    This seems like a really good idea and i would like to help out make a excel style sheet for all fifty states
    My reasons to OC
    1. to raise awareness of the legality of open carry in Michigan
    2. To raise awareness that good people carry guns
    3. A deterrent to people so that I won't be targeted
    4. Because it's more comfortable than CC in most situations
    5. Because I can and want to
    6. Because it's perfectly legal
    7. Self defense

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    I made this list for when Yance and I went to my rep to ask for Michigan to become permit less for vehicle carry.

    Once all the info is compiled, we should submit it to the various states for accuracy, proof it, and then submit it to OCDO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    I made this list for when Yance and I went to my rep to ask for Michigan to become permit less for vehicle carry.

    Once all the info is compiled, we should submit it to the various states for accuracy, proof it, and then submit it to OCDO.
    Sounds almost like a plan that, let me know how i can help
    My reasons to OC
    1. to raise awareness of the legality of open carry in Michigan
    2. To raise awareness that good people carry guns
    3. A deterrent to people so that I won't be targeted
    4. Because it's more comfortable than CC in most situations
    5. Because I can and want to
    6. Because it's perfectly legal
    7. Self defense

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    Started on a list, starting being the emphasis here.
    Referencing things as it relates to MI residents.

    Since I can't post a file here I'll maintain the list offsite. Here's a link to what I've got thus far.

    http://www.rencomp.com/50_State_OC_Chart_V03.xlsx

    Excel 07 format if anyone wants to help fill in the blanks that would be cool. I'll work more in my spare time and compile what I can into the master document.

    If you think of additional fields to add let me know.

    PM me and I'll give you an email to send the updates to and I'll add them to the master file and update it.

    Change Log:
    .01 Initial form creation.
    .02 Updated Chart with more info
    .03 Updated Chart with more info
    Last edited by Hevymetal; 08-05-2012 at 08:42 AM. Reason: Uodate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hevymetal View Post
    Started on a list, starting being the emphasis here.
    Referencing things as it relates to MI residents.

    Since I can't post a file here I'll maintain the list offsite. Here's a link to what I've got thus far.

    http://www.rencomp.com/50_State_OC_Chart_V01.xlsx

    Excel 07 format if anyone wants to help fill in the blanks that would be cool. I'll work more in my spare time and compile what I can into the master document.

    If you think of additional fields to add let me know.

    PM me and I'll give you an email to send the updates to and I'll add them to the master file and update it.

    Change Log:
    .01 Initial form creation.
    What do you think of utilizing google docs for this, that way more than one person could edit the lists?
    My reasons to OC
    1. to raise awareness of the legality of open carry in Michigan
    2. To raise awareness that good people carry guns
    3. A deterrent to people so that I won't be targeted
    4. Because it's more comfortable than CC in most situations
    5. Because I can and want to
    6. Because it's perfectly legal
    7. Self defense

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    Do any other states operate like ours, in regards to OC in PFZs with their CPLs?

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    since the 2nd amendment applies throughout the land ... many states are wrong on this subject ... either we have the right to carry or we don't ... and any "regulations" regarding this should be consistent throughout the land. I think that the regulations regarding carry should be the same as possessing ... no felons, crazies, and and age limit...that's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Alaska
    Arizona
    California .............................Unloaded and in plain veiw
    Colorado
    Delaware ............................. Plain view
    Florida
    Georgia
    Idaho ...................................Not concealed in city, must be OC unless unloaded
    Kansas ................................. Plain View but no preemption
    Kentucky
    Louisianna
    Mississippi
    Missouri
    Montana
    Nebraska ................................plain view
    Nevada
    New Mexico
    North Carolina .....................Plain view
    Oregon ............................... Plain Veiw
    South Carolina....................... Concealed, and in specified locations in the vehicle
    South Dakota .......................Plain veiw
    Texas Concealed
    Utah................Your vehicle, or with consent
    Vermont
    West Virginia ..............................Residents Only, plain view
    Wyoming..........................Not CC on person
    California is now, for all intents and purposes, "no oc", regardless if the pistol is unloaded.

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    I dont think they even have unloaded OC any longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    I dont think they even have unloaded OC any longer.
    Isn't that what i said??
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTodd View Post
    Isn't that what i said??
    oops. missed the regardless word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Do any other states operate like ours, in regards to OC in PFZs with their CPLs?
    No... at least none that I have found when I looked. I believe I've read through every state's prohibited areas. Interesting fact:

    Most state laws regarding "no carry zones" do not differentiate between open or concealed nor whether the person is licensed or not... just no possession.

    Mississippi has an enhanced license to exempt carriers from MOST no-carry zones

    97-37-7 New Wording as Per House Bill 506 Signed by the Governor.
    (2) ……. A person licensed under Section 45-9-101 to carry a concealed pistol, who has voluntarily
    completed an instructional course in the safe handling and use of firearms offered by an instructor certified
    by a nationally recognized organization that customarily offers firearms training, or by any other
    organization approved by the Department of Public Safety, shall also be authorized to carry weapons in
    courthouses except in courtrooms during a judicial proceeding, and any location listed in subsection (13) of
    Section 45-9-101, except any place of nuisance as defined in Section 95-3-1, any police, sheriff or highway
    patrol station or any detention facility, prison or jail. The department shall promulgate rules and regulations
    allowing concealed pistol permit holders to obtain an endorsement on their permit indicating that they have
    completed the aforementioned course and have the authority to carry in these locations. This section shall in
    no way interfere with the right of a trial judge to restrict the carrying of firearms in the courtroom.
    -----
    The only state that is "better" in regards to "no-carry zones" is Missouri. The state only criminalizes the transgression IF the person refuses to leave those areas, and IF they refuse to leave, they get a first-time charge of Trespassing which is a $100.00 fine.

    Missouri Revised Statutes

    Chapter 571
    Weapons Offenses
    Section 571.107

    August 28, 2011



    Endorsement does not authorize concealed firearms, where--penalty for violation.

    Carrying of a concealed firearm in a location specified in subdivisions (1) to (17) of subsection 1 of this

    section by any individual who holds a concealed carry endorsement issued pursuant to sections 571.101 to
    571.121 shall not be a criminal act but may subject the person to denial to the premises or removal from the
    premises. If such person refuses to leave the premises and a peace officer is summoned, such person may be
    issued a citation for an amount not to exceed one hundred dollars for the first offense. If a second citation for
    a similar violation occurs within a six-month period, such person shall be fined an amount not to exceed two
    hundred dollars and his or her endorsement to carry concealed firearms shall be suspended for a period of
    one year. If a third citation for a similar violation is issued within one year of the first citation, such person
    shall be fined an amount not to exceed five hundred dollars and shall have his or her concealed carry
    endorsement revoked and such person shall not be eligible for a concealed carry endorsement for a period of
    three years.
    Last edited by DrTodd; 08-05-2012 at 12:00 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hevymetal View Post
    Looking for a chart the show what states it's ok to OC/CC with/without a MI CPL. Also what areas are on/off limits with/without the CPL?

    My Google foo is weak this morning.

    Found the OC Map here
    http://opencarry.org/opencarry.html

    But looking for a Excel type chart with the info.

    This may help you...

    http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USRVCarCarry.pdf
    Giving up our liberties for safety is the one sure way to let the violent among us win.

    "Though defensive violence will always be a 'sad necessity' in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrongdoers should dominate just men." -Saint Augustine

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    since the 2nd amendment applies throughout the land ... many states are wrong on this subject ... either we have the right to carry or we don't ... and any "regulations" regarding this should be consistent throughout the land. I think that the regulations regarding carry should be the same as possessing ... no felons, crazies, and and age limit...that's it.



    Giving up our liberties for safety is the one sure way to let the violent among us win.

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    Hope you can make sense of it

    Tennessee N Y N Y N N Y w CPL


    Limited
    Not handled dropping off picking up. Limited to non-students

    N Y

    In any room where a judicial proceeding is taking place. (39-17-1306)

    Schools. (39-17-1309 and 39-17-1310)

    Some local public Parks and recreational property. (39-17-1311)

    Any Penal Institution (39-16-201)

    Any place with a properly posted sign per 39-17-1359

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raggs View Post
    What do you think of utilizing google docs for this, that way more than one person could edit the lists?
    got no problems with google docs

    Quote Originally Posted by DrTodd View Post
    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by pfries View Post
    Tennessee N Y N Y N N Y w CPL


    Limited
    Not handled dropping off picking up. Limited to non-students

    N Y

    In any room where a judicial proceeding is taking place. (39-17-1306)

    Schools. (39-17-1309 and 39-17-1310)

    Some local public Parks and recreational property. (39-17-1311)

    Any Penal Institution (39-16-201)

    Any place with a properly posted sign per 39-17-1359
    Added, thanks

    Updated what I have thus far.
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    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...WpRaUZoRUtOMXc

    Spreadsheet ported to GoogleDocs

    use the link and fill in the blanks
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    Nice.

    I dont know how it works though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Nice.

    I dont know how it works though.
    Sign into your google account, click on the link above and you should be able to view the document.

    EDIT: Er scratch that. list your google account here and I will add it to the list of allowed editors
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    since the 2nd amendment applies throughout the land ... many states are wrong on this subject ... either we have the right to carry or we don't ... and any "regulations" regarding this should be consistent throughout the land. I think that the regulations regarding carry should be the same as possessing ... no felons, crazies, and and age limit...that's it.
    um, no felons crazies and age limit? why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    PM inbound
    Got it you are added to the list of editors.
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