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    My gun club might be accepting 150 more members!

    My gun club in Lisbon Wis [2mins from downtown Sussex] might be accepting 150 more members.If your interested in getting your name on the list you need to show up for the Aug-20 meeting at 7:30pm.No sponser is needed.Our current wait to join is about 2yrs but if they approve the membership to 500 members you would get in right away.Our dues are $53 a yr and 5 work hrs.You also must be an NRA member and not a felon.We have 25,50,100,200yd and trap ranges.We are building a close in pistol range.
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    I don't know why so many clubs require to be a member of the NRA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by protias View Post
    I don't know why so many clubs require to be a member of the NRA.
    Maybe for insurance purposed or ligitmacy
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    Quote Originally Posted by protias View Post
    I don't know why so many clubs require to be a member of the NRA.
    +1, besides that it looks like a nice place to shoot!

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    I asked in a PM, haven't seen an answer...
    When I looked through the club website I didn't see any mention of range rules.
    Are there any strange ones?

    I know clubs that won't let you shoot at ground targets,
    won't let you use human pictures or silhouettes, [sp?]
    won't let you OC,
    require that you stand at the shooting line (even if you're the only one there & want to work on SD skills)...

    I'm hoping this club has nothing like that, 'cause I've been looking for a place.
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    2012)
    GROUND RULES
    1.Every Member is required to know and abide by all Rules and By-Laws of this club.
    All Safety Rules set forth by the National Rifle Association shall be enforced on these
    premises. Violation of these Rules shall be grounds for disciplinary action or dismissal
    from this club. (Dec. 2010)
    2.If a Member of this Club observes another Member or guest doing anything against
    these Rules, he must call it to their attention, and report them to any Member of the
    Board of Directors or a Range Officer.
    3. The use of intoxicating beverages on Club Grounds is strictly prohibited, except by
    special authorization of the Board of Directors.
    4. The discharge of all fully automatic weapons as well as any form of a “BUMP
    FIRING TECHNIQUE” OF ANY FIREARM shall be prohibited, and a sign posted so
    stating. (Dec 2011)
    5.There shall be no shooting before 9:00 A.M. There shall be no shooting on the Rifle
    and Pistol Ranges one-half (1/2) hour after sunset. There shall be no shooting on the
    Shotgun Range (1/2) hour after sunset, except 9:30 P.M. for Trap League Functions.
    6.At no time shall anyone enter in front of the firing line, without first sounding the siren
    and turning on the flashing red lights; except when the Range has been closed by the
    permission of the Board for Club Functions, such as Picnics, etc. Each and every Range
    in use must activate the flashing red lights and siren, before proceeding down range for
    any reason. This ensures that the warning light and siren system will not shut down until
    the last person returning from down range deactivates the system. This is very important
    so as not to trap any person down range who may be out of sight.
    7.While the flashing lights are on, all Actions must be open and Firearms unloaded on the
    Rifle and Pistol Ranges. The handling of Firearms at this time shall be prohibited
    8A. Paper targets may be used on the Rifle and Pistol Ranges, at any time. Paper
    Targets are the only type targets allowed for use on 100 and 200 yd ranges. No
    intermittent Targets may be used without the Board of Directors approval. All Targets at
    the 100 and 200 yd ranges must be attached to back boards.
    8B Temporarily Suspended
    B. Reactive Targets are to be used only on the 25 and 50 yard ranges.
    Only .22 Rimfire is to be used when shooting at Reactive-Type Targets.
    Types of targets allowed to be used:
    1. Aluminum Cans.
    2. Balloons.
    3. Plastic-type bottles.
    4. Spinner-Type Targets (Commercial or Home Made)
    5. No shooting of targets closer than 25 yards.
    When shooting, know your target and what’s beyond. Ask yourself, will my bullet impact
    the BACKSTOP. (June 2010).
    C. Cans or breakable targets, except glass, may be used on the 100 yard range for
    special events or for skirmish team practices only if express permission, for each
    use, is granted by the Chief Range Officer or the Board of Directors; and a Range
    Officer is present during such use.
    NOTE: You must clean up all debris when shooting at Reactive-Type Targets,
    before leaving the range.
    9. The firing of tracer ammo, incendiary ammo, and or human caricature targets shall
    be prohibited on the club grounds, unless authorized by the Board.
    9a The use of featureless human silhouette targets is permitted. Targets shall be a
    design traditionally used for police training in competition, such as NRA Approved B-27
    silhouette.
    1. The target shall be paper or cardboard, and consist of a single, continuous outline
    of upper torso and head areas.
    2. The target shall be one-dimensional, featureless, and of one solid color. Scoring
    rings and border may be of a contrasting color.
    10 Ranges - Use of:
    10A Change
    A. 200 Yard Range - Rifle only, must be single loaded and must sit at a bench. Eliminate
    Hand Gun Endorsement until enhancements have been completed. (June 2010)
    (Under control of Trap Committee during Trap League functions)
    B. 100 Yard Range - Rifle and Shotgun (slugs only) (see Rules 11 & 11A for handgun
    use)
    C. 25 and 50 Yard Ranges - Rifles and Handguns. Shotguns (slugs &steel shot)
    11. The 100 yard range will be open to handguns, with a minimum barrel length of 4
    inches. All shooting will be done from a sitting position on a bench and the gun will be
    sandbagged
    11A. Long-Range Pistol Endorsement:
    Members of the Menomonee Falls Rod & Gun Club, who meet the qualification
    standards set forth elsewhere, and who have their current Club Membership Card
    endorsed for “LONG-RANGE PISTOL”, may use handguns at the 100 and 200 yard
    ranges as follows:
    200 Yard Endorsement - Centerfire pistol with a barrel length of 4 inches or more to be
    fired from an acceptable “supported” position as defined in current rules governing NRA
    PISTOL SILHOUETTE or other recognized governing authority for pistol shooting
    sports.
    1. It is prohibited to rapid draw and fire from a holster.
    2. Double-action and/or rapid firing multiple shots in a cadence exceeding one (1)
    shot per ten (10) seconds is prohibited.
    3. Firing of rim-fire and non-magnum pistol ammunition is prohibited.
    (NOTE: non-magnum ammunition commonly used in rifles, that is chambered
    for guns such as the T/C Contender, i.e., 30-30, 35 REM, .223, etc.; is
    allowable.
    4.Any firing from a one-handed/non-supported position is prohibited.
    B. 100 Yard Endorsement
    Rimfire or Centerfire pistol with a barrel length of 4 inches or more, fired from an
    acceptable “supported” position as defined in current rules governing NRA PISTOL
    SILHOUETTE or other recognized governing authority for pistol shooting sports.
    1. It is prohibited to rapid draw and fire from a holster.
    2. Double-action and/or rapid firing multiple shots in a cadence exceeding one (1)
    shot per ten (10) seconds is prohibited.
    3. It is allowable to shoot “two-handed” without support, but “one-handed”
    shooting is prohibited.
    12. Anyone intending to travel between the 200 yard firing line and the 200 yard target
    area must first inform shotgunners using the Trap Field, if any, and obtain agreement that
    all shotgun fire cease until the aforementioned 200 yard shooting area is cleared of all
    persons. Due to the potential for injury from falling pellets, no one is to traverse the 200
    yard shooting area while the trap field is actively in use.
    13. The patterning of Shotguns shall be done at the designated frames at the 25/50yard
    range, or at the designated place at the Trap area. Bring your own Cardboard.
    14. Upon completing your rounds of firing; all targets shall be removed from the target
    rack, and placed in the proper receptacle. Clean up your shooting area pick-up and
    dispose of your brass and shot gun shells; this includes .22 brass and gun cleaning
    materials.
    15. Litter should be picked up, to keep our grounds clean.
    16. The last person leaving the Club Grounds shall make sure all facilities are locked
    and secured.
    17. No Member shall loan or give his/her Club Key or give out the gate and building code
    to non-members. (Sept 2009)
    18. Any Member must produce his/her Membership Card upon demand by any other
    Club Member.
    19. Any personal injury sustained on Club Grounds, must be reported to the board of
    Directors, within twelve (12) hours.
    20. There shall be no private sales of any kind, by anyone, during the Rifle Clinic, unless
    such sales are directly connected with the Clinic, and/or they have been approved by the
    Board of Directors.
    21. All refuse fires on Club grounds shall comply with local ordinances; a copy of which
    is to remain posted on the bulletin boards. All refuse fires on Club grounds shall contain
    only Club refuse (e.g. - paper targets); refuse is not to be brought onto Club grounds for
    burning. No fire on Club grounds shall be left untended.
    22 The Board of Directors shall manage and control all posting of signs, hanging
    of pictures, posters, awards, licenses, decorations, etc., on the Club grounds
    and/or in the club buildings and structures. The Board will assign areas for
    committee use. The Committee Chairmen (or Co-Chairmen) will be
    responsible for all items displayed in their assigned area. Effective November
    1, 2004:
    CMP: Rifle House; interior west wall from the S W corner north to the second window.
    Junior CMP: Rifle House; interior east and south wall from the east door to the window
    of the south wall.
    Fishing: Main House; interior east wall between the windows.
    Trap and Junior Trap: Main House; share an area, interior west wall between the
    windows.
    Trap: Main Building; bulletin board on the south wall.
    Items must be posted at a level above the windowsill. Items in violation of this rule will
    be removed and disposed at the discretion of the board.”
    23. Donations to the MFR&GC become the property of the Club. The use and
    disposition will be at the discretion of the Board of Directors. The acceptance of
    conditional donations requires prior approval by the Board of Directors. Items donated
    with conditions, i.e. specific use, return if no longer needed, etc should be “labeled” in
    some manner identifying the special conditions of the donation.”
    (Aug 2004).
    24. Range Safety,
    SAFETY is always our #1 priority at MFR&GC
    ALWAYS keep the muzzle pointed at the berm when loading any firearm.
    NEVER elevate the muzzle of a loaded firearm above the berm.
    POSITION your target on line with your shooting position so that all rounds will strike
    the berm safely. DOUBLE CHECK prior to firing.
    ONLY put your finger on the trigger when you are safely on target and ready to fire.
    YOU are responsible for ALL ROUNDS FIRED, including those fired by guests.
    Do not: Move concrete bench in any way, Lift or move bench top, Sit on bench top!”
    25. It is prohibited to draw from the holster and fire. (Jan 2012)
    26. It is prohibited to fire from the hip without the Boards approval. (Jan 2012)

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    Every club will have rules that we don't like.
    The only way around that is to buy your own property in the country.
    This place still is better than shooting indoors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glockface View Post
    Every club will have rules that we don't like.
    The only way around that is to buy your own property in the country.
    ....
    Or join a club that encourages combat shooting events like the Racine IDPA and the Schultz Resort Rod & Gun Club.
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    What happened to the old members ... does not look like anybody's there in the pic...did the club have some type of contest?

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    Yeah, I guess it's better than indoors. Certainly cheaper, and likely to be more private.
    And I can use a marker to trace the outline on the back of my targets.
    And if nobody else is there (likely) I could practice practical shooting, instead of long-range target shooting.

    Quote Originally Posted by davegran
    Or join a club that encourages combat shooting events like ... Schultz Resort Rod & Gun Club
    "The range may only be used when a club designated Range Safety Officer (RSO) is present.
    No shooting from in front of, or in back of, shooting benches. All shooters must use the benches as the firing line.
    We also require that no one shoots alone, another adult must be present.
    Guns must be transported to and from the firing line in a cased condition. No gun is allowed to
    leave the firing line uncased."

    The IDPA club looks like fun, & isn't expensive to join, but I don't see their address anywhere (other than saying they're in Racine).

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    Our club doesn't make you put in 40 work hours like some do.Alot of times i'm the only one there.I hear members shooting faster than 1rd every 10 seconds too.We did get new berms.Another good thing is its only about 25mins to the club from NW Milwaukee.When you become a member you are the RSO!Hope to see you there! Gface
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glockface View Post
    I hear members shooting faster than 1rd every 10 seconds too.
    As I read the rules, the 10-second rule applies only to the "long range handgun" endorsements...100-200 yard handgun shooting.

    For everything else...just no full auto / bump fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glockface
    Our club doesn't make you put in 40 work hours like some do.
    It looks like I could fulfill the hours commitment the first day of the fall rifle sight-in.
    'Course, about all I'd be good for there is administrivia, but someone's got to do it.

    A lot of times I'm the only one there.
    With my odd schedule that's probably how it'd be for me too.

    it's only about 25 mins to the club from NW Milwaukee.
    I've ridden (or driven) by there many times.

    When you become a member you are the RSO!
    Self-responsibility. What a concept.
    (Actually, I am an RSO anyway.)

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    This is an interesting idea for me. I could carpool with the MKEgal, but her habit of sighting in on the way there, does perforate a lot of stop signs. On the other hand, when we get there, she would be ready to go.

    We'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by E6chevron
    I could carpool with the MKEgal, but her habit of sighting in on the way there does perforate a lot of stop signs.
    Geez... ya do something one time & you're marked for life.
    'Sides, if you're driving I need both hands to hang on.

    On the other hand, when we get there, she would be ready to go.
    Once I quit shaking in fright.
    Of course, that could be used as a lead-in to shooting under stress - adrenaline already running.

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    I have been eyeballing this place for a while now as it is about 5 minutes tops from my place.

    A couple questions if I may...

    On the required work hours, would it be possible for a guy to just pay the extra $50 with the membership fee and not worry about the them? Not that I am trying to avoid the work, but because I seem to have a hard enough time lately just getting a few hours to go shoot, much less having to find more more time to go work.

    Second, what is the policy on guests. When I do get to shoot it's a rare occasion that I go by myself.

    Boons policy is one guest per trip and you can only bring the same guest twice in one calender year.

    Going through the posted rules, I didn't see anything mentioned about that.

    Thanks
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    Yes you can buy out your work hours for an extra $50
    You are allowed 2 guests to shoot with you no charge.
    Make sure you get to the Aug-20 meeting to get your name on the waiting list.
    The club wants to do some improvements so i think the vote will be approved to add 150 more members.
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    Cool, thanks
    It's all fun and games until someone flash bangs the kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakRatJR View Post
    I have been eyeballing this place for a while now as it is about 5 minutes tops from my place.


    Second, what is the policy on guests. When I do get to shoot it's a rare occasion that I go by myself.

    Boons policy is one guest per trip and you can only bring the same guest twice in one calender year.

    Going through the posted rules, I didn't see anything mentioned about that.

    Thanks

    5 Minutes away sounds great. Wish I was that close to my club...

    Just for the record, Daniel Boone lets you bring up to 4 guests at a time. Same guests are only to come twice a year.

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    Attended the Menomonee Falls Rod & Gun Club meeting tonight, and filed out a membership application to get on the new member waiting list.

    Unfortunately there are already 120 on the wait list now, and they expect 35 to 50 openings (non-renewals) by mid-January. At that rate of new membership openings, the wait list is 3 to 5 years long. They did not vote on raising the membership limit in the bylaws. They may only raise it by 50 more, or not at all.

    The strict rules about not drawing from the holster (rule 25), one-dimensional mono-color paper/cardboard silhouette targets (rules 9,9A), make it not very flexible for handgun self-defense practice.

    I did not have an opportunity to ask their pistol chairman about what a one-dimensional target looks like. I guess it looks exactly like a two-dimensional target, when you view it from the edge!
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    What was the reason for the no vote?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glockface
    What was the reason for the no vote?
    In short, Robert's Rules of Order + club by-laws.

    2 people proposed amendments, which were seconded.
    Those have to be voted on before voting on the main motion.
    In order to vote on the amendments, they have to be published in the newsletter, then heard at yet another special meeting (next month).
    People could indefinitely postpone the vote on whether or not to increase the membership simply by continuously proposing amendments.
    Or the amendments could be withdrawn, allowing a vote. (That could have happened last night too.)

    One guy objecting to increasing membership asked what the club is going to do with all the extra dues money once these current projects (roof, berms, paving) are done. I think it would make sense to lower the dues. More members means less money each person has to pay.

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    re: a 1-dimensional target
    Would take some sharp shooting to hit that!

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    Just realized I missed the meeting Monday. Did anyone happen to get their or hear how the more members vote went?
    It's all fun and games until someone flash bangs the kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by protias View Post
    I don't know why so many clubs require to be a member of the NRA.
    I refuse to support the NRA through any means ....

    On the bright side, it looks like something good came out of the paint-ball competition miscommunication .. now accepting new members

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakRatJR View Post
    Just realized I missed the meeting Monday. Did anyone happen to get their or hear how the more members vote went?
    NO vote on 100 dollar assessment
    NO vote on expanding membership in anyway

    FYI - I was there.

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