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    How can I learn the do's and don't's of carrying a gun?

    I'm 18 and I really wanna start open carrying. The problem is is that I don't know the rules for carrying a gun. I've looked online and it's suggested that I take a CCW class and CCW permits are for age 21+. Are there any specific classes I can take? Or should I just contact the sheriff's department and ask them?

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    You can start by reading threads on this website. That is how I became aware of open carrying in Michigan. Look at the state laws. Know what wash, rinse and repeat mean. Carry a digital voice recorder. Know where you can and not open carry. Make sure you understand the laws before open carrying, etc.

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    Read all the stickies at the top of this forum. You might also want to read the other thread you started a week ago asking the same thing - http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...94#post1793794
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainingblood View Post
    should I just contact the sheriff's department and ask them?
    No. A good place to start is read the stickies here and on michiganopencarry.org.
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    In addition to the great advice above, meet up for coffee or something with any of us OC veterans. I'm in West Bloomfield, PM me if you want to meet up and learn.
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    Have you had any training in safe gun handling like a NRA basic Hunters Safety course?
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    PM me, or even just post here if you ever want to meet up. I'm close enough for it to be easy.
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    You can PM me too. Pontiac isnt far from me, and I really enjoy helping the new-bs.
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    http://forums.miopencarry.org/index.php?topic=25.msg67

    That's a good info thread on MOC's forum also.

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    OP you should not be open carrying until you have adequately researched all the laws associated with firearms and open carry... including transport, PFZ, liquor licenses, etc... there is A LOT for you to learn and if you do not know EXACTLY what you are going you will get your ass in a sling REAL fast. You can pick up a felony and lose your rights to own guns FOREVER.


    Do not take this lightly and just start openly carrying all willy nilly... you WILL get jammed up by the police.


    Take your time. Research. Ask questions. Attend a OC seminar or event. OC at first only with other more experienced OCers. -GET A VOICE OR VIDEO RECORDER THAT YOU CAN RUN FOR THE DURATION OF THE TIME YOU ARE OCING. THAT MEANS START RECORDING WHEN YOU STEP OUTSIDE OF YOUR HOUSE AND DO NOT STOP UNTIL YOU GET BACK HOME.


    I don't mean to discourage you at all, but you really need to think about what you're doing and take the responsibility VERY seriously. I researched and participated on the forums for around 6 months before I first OCed.... outside of my house that is... I OCed in my house and in my yard a ton.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainingblood View Post
    I'm 18 and I really wanna start open carrying. The problem is is that I don't know the rules for carrying a gun. I've looked online and it's suggested that I take a CCW class and CCW permits are for age 21+. Are there any specific classes I can take? Or should I just contact the sheriff's department and ask them?
    [Rainingblood] creepy screen name. A couple of things - CCW is a felony - you do not want one. CPL is Concealed Pistol License - you do want one when you turn 21 from MI. Until then you may want to check into a non resident CPL from another state which will allow you to open carry in a grocery store without worrying about getting locked up. MI laws are beyond stupid. Learn the transport laws for non cpl holders and follow them to the letter until you get a cpl. Michigander & DanM are OC vets who know their stuff, I would take them up on their offers to help you get started. Being young will bring you lots of police attention and the more you know up front will help keep you out of trouble.

    My troll senses are sendind up red flags on this one guys - I hope I am wrong.

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    A CPL from Maine, (CWP to them) is 60$. I'm waiting for mine to show up in the mail.

    ETA: It does NOT cover concealed carry, nor does it cover vehicle carry.

    When you can tell me what it does cover, and the law that deals with the subject, then you will start to have a handle on things well enough to begin to OC away from home.
    Last edited by stainless1911; 08-06-2012 at 12:09 PM.

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    Here, read this:

    http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docume...s/firearms.pdf

    If you have any questions, feel free to ask...
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    [QUOTE=Glock9mmOldStyle;1802748
    My troll senses are sendind up red flags on this one guys - I hope I am wrong.



    Yeah, I don't want to speak too soon either but I get the feeling a little. OP posted a couple weeks ago asking a few questions that seemed a little odd. Then no response or posts untill this.

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    [QUOTE=Adams182;1803107][QUOTE=Glock9mmOldStyle;1802748
    My troll senses are sendind up red flags on this one guys - I hope I am wrong.



    Yeah, I don't want to speak too soon either but I get the feeling a little. OP posted a couple weeks ago asking a few questions that seemed a little odd. Then no response or posts until this.[/QUOTE]

    I thought that was the same screen name.
    Last edited by DrTodd; 08-08-2012 at 12:14 AM.

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    If the OP is 18, he or she should know that Slayer had "Reign in Blood" way before he or she was born! I meant to say SSSLLLAAAYYYEEERRRR!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cm2624 View Post
    SSSLLLAAAYYYEEERRRR!!!!!!
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    Maybe he got in trouble already
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