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    GRNC Update 8-6-12: Senate Fails To Pass "Cybersecurity" Bill


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    GRNC Update 8-6-12

    Senate Fails To Pass “Cybersecurity” Bill

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    On Thursday, August 2nd, the US Senate failed to gain the 60 votes needed to move forward with S. 3414, otherwise known as the “CyberSecurity Bill”. Particularly important to gun owners was that the bill contained a last ditch effort by anti-gun Senators that would have, in part, effectively banned all magazines with a capacity of more than ten rounds.

    Interestingly, while Senator Richard Burr (R-NC) voted just as he indicated he would to kill the measure, North Carolina’s other Senator, Senator Kay Hagan (D-NC) voted for the Bill to move forward, even with the Magazine Ban amendment as part of it. While it’s been frustrating to say the least when trying to pry an actual position on gun rights from Senator Hagan, we need look no further than her voting record to get a clearer picture.

    While the “Cybersecurity” Bill that contained the Amendment to limit magazine capacity is now effectively dead, this will not prevent further attempts by anti-gun politicians from inserting similar language into future bills until they get their way. GRNC will remain vigilant for future legislative attempts to limit your rights, but we also need your help.



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    To US Senator Richard Burr:

    Dear Senator Burr,

    As a North Carolina gun owner I am happy that you have cast your vote to defeat the “Cybersecurity” bill, which contained language to limit magazine capacity. Anti-gun politicians will stop at nothing and will use last-minute tactics to chip away at our rights as citizens. This latest attempt to resurrect limitations on magazine capacity was attached as an amendment in the final days before a vote was held on the bill.

    I thank you for standing up for my rights as a gun owner while serving the great State of North Carolina as our US Senator, and for quickly identifying the attempt to attach anti-gun legislation to an already suspect Senate Bill.

    I ask that you remain vigilant in the future for similar anti-gun language in bills that you will be asked to vote for while serving in the US Senate. I will also be monitoring future bills via GRNC legislative alerts.

    Sincerely,


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    To US Senator Kay Hagan:

    Dear Senator Hagan,

    As a law-abiding American and gun owner I am outraged and insulted by your recent vote on the proposed Senate Bill S. 3414: A bill to enhance the security and resiliency of the cyber and communications infrastructure of the United States. As you well know, this bill contained an amendment which would have resurrected an outdated ban on magazines with a capacity of over ten rounds.

    Despite your insistence to hundreds of thousands of gun owners in the State of North Carolina that you respect the Second Amendment to the US Constitution, your voting record sings a much different song. I find it hard to believe that voting for such a measure could, in any way, solve any problem related to gun violence. Instead, it would only limit those who would actually follow the law, which is a far cry from the description of the average violent criminal.

    This is your second anti-gun action in recent weeks. Previously, you failed to join other senators on a bipartisan letter opposing the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty

    In the future, I would hope and expect that you would consider the impact of such laws and how they affect law-abiding gun owners. Laws such as magazine capacity limits have absolutely no effect on criminals, and only limit those who follow laws.

    I will be monitoring your voting record very closely, and will follow the progress of future legislation via GRNC legislative alerts.

    Sincerely,



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    what in the world was the purpose of posting this GRNC epistle? especially w/o any type of GRNC input, the outcome benefitted the gun toting citizens appropriately.

    wabbit

    ps...does this mean the GRNC will still claim credit for this situation as well?

    pps: no i guess the rationale was purely politically motivated...
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    But who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most...
    A person who has for untold centuries maintained the imposing position of spiritual head of four-fifths of the human race...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncwabbit View Post
    what in the world was the purpose of posting this GRNC epistle? especially w/o any type of GRNC input, the outcome benefitted the gun toting citizens appropriately.

    wabbit

    ps...does this mean the GRNC will still claim credit for this situation as well?

    pps: no i guess the rationale was purely politically motivated...
    Perhaps this one is purely informational...idk. Maybe it will help people understand that while Sen Hagan touts her love and support for the Second Amendment, her voting record tells a different tale. Maybe it even keeps folks alerted concerning future amendments that will be added to other bills and to remain on the look out for them. Heck, and I know this is a stretch, but perhaps it lets people know that at least one organization in NC is trying to keep up with things out there and do something about it.

    Still waiting for Mr Wabbit's group to make a splash on the scene, though. Then we'll know how to really take on the anti-gun issues the only proper way. How many members are you up to now, btw?
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    alas i am taking my lead from GRNC... my goals and strategy are opaque as well as who controls my membership, their specific numbers as well as how membership monies are being spent are shrouded in secrecy. However, unlike GRNC I am saving membership monies by not putting out politically based proclamations arbitrarily that i did not contribute a bloody thing to.

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    But who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most...
    A person who has for untold centuries maintained the imposing position of spiritual head of four-fifths of the human race...
    All religions issue bibles against him, and say the most injurious things about him, but we never hear his side. (twain)

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    I dont care if they were involved or not but do appreciate them publishing how our elected representatives are voting. All publishers should be shouting from the roof tops about the lies and omissions our representatives get away with. Dont tell me you are for my gun rights and then vote the other way. I would prefer you to tell me to go pound sand. Just my thoughts. Thanks for the info GRNC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncwabbit View Post
    alas i am taking my lead from GRNC... my goals and strategy are opaque as well as who controls my membership, their specific numbers as well as how membership monies are being spent are shrouded in secrecy. However, unlike GRNC I am saving membership monies by not putting out politically based proclamations arbitrarily that i did not contribute a bloody thing to.

    wabbit
    So, you're basically a bit moody because GRNC will not post specific information on an open forum that anti-gun groups would love to get a hold of? Some of this seems a tad suspicious, Mr Wabbit. I'm starting to think you're trying a little too hard to get some of this information, but I'm sure they've had to deal with this kind of thing before...

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    Reply from Sen Hagan

    Dear Friend,

    Thank you for contacting me to express your concern regarding Senator Chuck Schumer's proposed amendment to the Cybersecurity Act of 2012 (S. 3414). I appreciate hearing your thoughts on this important issue.

    The Schumer amendment would prohibit the transfer or possession of large capacity ammunition feeding devices. These devices are defined as a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition. This amendment would not include limits on .22 caliber rim fire ammunition. The Senate concluded debate on the Cybersecurity Act on August 2, 2012, without considering this amendment. However, please rest assured I will keep your opposition to this proposal in mind should it be considered on another bill.

    My family, like the great state of North Carolina, has a long tradition of hunting and gun ownership, and I take great pride in that heritage. As your United States Senator, I will continue working to protect these fundamental, constitutional rights while opposing onerous restrictions on gun ownership. For example, in 2009, I supported an amendment by Senator Thune to allow citizens in states that do not require permits for concealed carry would be allowed to carry their firearms, without a permit, in states that otherwise do require permits. Though this legislation was not agreed to, you can be certain I will continue fighting to protect the Second Amendment rights of our citizens.

    Again, thank you for contacting my office. It is truly an honor to represent North Carolina in the United States Senate, and I hope you will not hesitate to contact me in the future should you have any further questions or concerns. If you would like to stay informed on my work in the Senate, you can sign up for my e-newsletter, follow me on Twitter at @SenatorHagan, or visit my Facebook page.

    Sincerely,



    Kay R. Hagan

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