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Romney and Ryan..

Beretta92FSLady

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Horse crap!! Hitler was no more of a Christian than obama. He might have claimed to be Christain (like obama) but in NO WAY was he a Christain. Hitler was a socialist as was the nazi party, just like someone else we know.

Of course Hitler wasn't. A person couldn't possibly be a Christian, and a Socialist, at the same time *sniggers*
 

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I like Ryan, I just don't know how high he'll score on the likability scale (which is incredibly important) But Ryan is bright, and a solid eye on the prize conservative. I suppose anyone who Romney picks will be demonized and run through the coals though

Not to beat a dead horse but Romney has to pick a very conservative, pro-gun RM to make up for his previous..... mistakes.

Ryan voted for the bail outs, what else needs to be said. He said he "was voting against his principles" when he voted YES, so what kind of a man is he if his own principles don't mean anything?
 

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Paul Ryan is a big-government neocon nitwit. He voted for TARP, the Patriot Act, NDAA, DHS, TSA, GM bailout. His own budget plan increases the debt by trillions and wouldn't balance the budget until the year 2040.

I am astounded at how so many people think this fake is for small government.

Exactly! It is amazing how people believe whatever comes out of the speakers on the TV. Both of these fools are no better than Obama!
 

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Ryan voted for the bail outs, what else needs to be said. He said he "was voting against his principles" when he voted YES, so what kind of a man is he if his own principles don't mean anything?

He is a Politician.

Here's two Principle men:
The bottom line is that Dr. Paul and his son do not appear to be trying to blow up the Republican Party. They seem to realize that they have a better chance of advancing their goals in the long run by working within the system. For all the talk about being revolutionaries, Dr. Paul wants to see his movement become mainstream. http://communities.washingtontimes....un/7/ron-paul-and-rand-paul-back-mitt-romney/

And this whole time I thought Dr. Paul wasn't a Republican, and wasn't interested in being part of the Establishment.--they seem to run into the same philosophical conundrum that Anarchist run into in their quest to become mainstream, without being mainstream.
 
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He is a Politician.

Here's two Principle men:

And this whole time I thought Dr. Paul wasn't a Republican, and wasn't interested in being part of the Establishment.--they seem to run into the same philosophical conundrum that Anarchist run into in their quest to become mainstream, without being mainstream.

Don't you mean hipsters? Because none of the Anarchists I know care about the mainstream at all.
 

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Our current president has done nothing but uphold the Constitution and laws of the US, with his own views, as every other president has. Not liberal enough for many, not conservative enough for others.
First, there will be orderly transition, unless you interfere. If you really think a US president would try to hold power by force, you are an idiot. Of course, we The People do still have the tools required to enforce an election, should that become necessary. Trust but verify.
Second, so many people are fond of saying President Obama isn't a Christian, because they forget that they condemned him for listening to baptist preacher Jeremiah Wright. He is a Christian, not that being something else or nothing at all is a disqualification from being a good president.
Third, Nazis were extremist, but not really right, not really left. The use of "socialist" was a poor word choice by Hitler, since he strongly believed in private property and the initiative it brings, and that destiny was controlled by a small group of people. He was anti-democratic, and obviously believed this ideal applied to his chosen people. He was not a traditional socialist and disavowed Marxist socialism, because it adhered to democratic principles and eschewed private property (exactly the opposite of Hitler's poorly-informed view of economics.)
Fourth, hitler was an occultist who used Christianity as a weapon and reason to do bad things - he was not the first nor last to do so.
Finally, you can't really categorize someone who was inconsistent - the only thing Hitler consistently was, was a delusional politician bent on getting and holding power.
 

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Exactly! It is amazing how people believe whatever comes out of the speakers on the TV. Both of these fools are no better than Obama!

Bingo.

Nothing extreme will happen after Nov if Obama looses. Mit-Ryan-Obo.... they are all on the same big government totalitarianism team.
The misguided goal is prosperity for all, the tools are complete control.

Each party takes it's turn stripping away freedom to afford the people prosperity. Mit will be as bad as Obo, Obo is as bad as Bush.

The only hope is for people to realize that your party (R or D, it doesn't matter) is simply playing you against the other "evil" side to maintain control.

We NEED someone to shrink our government and REPEAL laws instead of making new stupid ones.
Vote Johnson.
 

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Our current president has done nothing but uphold the Constitution and laws of the US, with his own views, as every other president has. Not liberal enough for many, not conservative enough for others.
First, there will be orderly transition, unless you interfere. If you really think a US president would try to hold power by force, you are an idiot.

I guess I am an idiot. The wife and I are cashing out of all our IRA's, selling everything we have and bugging out. That's how serious I am about what is going on. I enjoy every day I take a breadth, but something is going on and something is going to change in a big way.

We have just enough to cash out and make it till we die of old age, god willing. Not going to live a life of luxury, but we will be safe, armed and prepped.

Too many billionaires that have destroyed other economies are trying to destroy ours. They are succeeding.
 

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I guess I am an idiot. The wife and I are cashing out of all our IRA's, selling everything we have and bugging out. That's how serious I am about what is going on. I enjoy every day I take a breadth, but something is going on and something is going to change in a big way.

We have just enough to cash out and make it till we die of old age, god willing. Not going to live a life of luxury, but we will be safe, armed and prepped.

Too many billionaires that have destroyed other economies are trying to destroy ours. They are succeeding.

I wish you luck.
 

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I should have worded it differently. I stated that the only thing Anarchist care about with regard to Mainstream, is that they do not become Mainstream.

Again, this is not the case, in my experience. Unless you mean that the only thing Anarchists care about with regard to Mainstream is that it does not try to drag them back into the herd.

One could say that Anarchists follow the philosophy of "Live and Let Live". You don't try to convert them to herd philosophy or interfere with how they live their lives, and they'll reciprocate. If everyone became true-to-the-core Anarchists, aka, "mainstream", I doubt the other Anarchists would care. The only way it would affect them would be to have further like minded people leaving them alone.

If you refer to Anarchists becoming "mainstream", like the Tea Party did, well, in that instance, I would say those folks have a poor grasp on what Anarchism actually is, and would be pseudo-Anarchists.
 

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More on Ryan:



There are a couple of items in there--I won't point them out--that will not make Conservatives too happy. It's interesting, bu Ryan is Left'ish when it comes to some things; not nearly Left enough to get Left votes though.

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You mean he leans more Libertarian then most repubs?
 

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On Social Issues, yes...but when push comes to shove, he takes the Conservative line to save his own butt--like all politicians do.

I would strongly disagree. There really is nothing libertarian about Romney or Ryan...

CISPA and the NDAA, complete with indefinite detention of American citizens is definitely NOT a libertarian position, neither are the aggressive, unjustified, and unsustainable wars that he and the rest of the establishment support. The Patriot act is definitely not libertarian inspired either.

make no mistake, Ryan is a die hard NeoCon.
 

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Dumb Azz Sheeple, Wake UP!

Exactly! It is amazing how people believe whatever comes out of the speakers on the TV. Both of these fools are no better than Obama!

Great point let me school you folks. The RNC Republican National Convention has not happened yet. It’s the weekend of 8/24/2012. This is the event that picks the nominee for the party. NOT 1 Republican Nominee has gotten the required 1244 Delegates to make them the Nominee. Even if the Romney camp counts unbound delegates as his, and they have. They have stolen many states from Ron Paul; they are scared and want to make sure they force Romney down our throats. Romney was chosen long ago, and TV reports that. Don't let them pick! It’s not their choice. Keep your eyes open and watch the numbers of supporters that show up at the RNC for Ron Paul. You won’t see it on the Lame stream media, These presstittues are controlled by corporations that own and regulate them. As in the past the bell tolls for freedom. Ron Paul's supporters will out number the whole RNC. Watch alternative media to get the truth.

In the end, the elections will be cancelled by an engineered financial collapse. Obama will claim himself KING, and marshal law will ensue. This is your only warning! Don’t believe me? Just look it all up. It’s all there for you to see.
 

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I like Ryan, I just don't know how high he'll score on the likability scale (which is incredibly important) But Ryan is bright, and a solid eye on the prize conservative. I suppose anyone who Romney picks will be demonized and run through the coals though

Not to beat a dead horse but Romney has to pick a very conservative, pro-gun RM to make up for his previous..... mistakes.

I do believe Romney got the message. Following the Texas A&M shooting, and Obama's call for more gun control, here's Romney's response:


Mitt Romney says gun laws are not the answer to the recent string of mass shootings. Romney says it's not about the weapons used in the attacks, but about the individuals who choose to commit violence against others.

- Source
 

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I guess I am an idiot. The wife and I are cashing out of all our IRA's, selling everything we have and bugging out.

Well, I did the same, but for a different reason. I racked up a lot of debt during my divorce, and was heavily vested in the market. I tripled my investment over the last five years, but all signs says the market's meteoric return run is over, so instead of keeping the debt and the investments, I sold the investments to pay for the debt.

That's how serious I am about what is going on. I enjoy every day I take a breadth, but something is going on and something is going to change in a big way.

We have just enough to cash out and make it till we die of old age, god willing. Not going to live a life of luxury, but we will be safe, armed and prepped.

Too many billionaires that have destroyed other economies are trying to destroy ours. They are succeeding.

At least they can't seize your IRA, but what did you do with the the cash? Bank account? Cash? Gold? Diamonds?
 

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At least they can't seize your IRA, but what did you do with the the cash? Bank account? Cash? Gold? Diamonds?

Gold and Silver, mostly Silver. Diamonds are worthless.

A gallon of gas in 1950 could be bought with one silver quarter. A gallon of gas today can be bought with that same quarter. Gold and Silver won't get you rich, it will protect what you have.
 
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