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    BOLO stolen glock 21gen4-renton-8-15-12

    some piece of s#!t came in through my sliding glass door 45 minutes ago (3:00am) and stole my glock 21. stay on look out if some lowlife wants to make money off it.
    Model# 21 gen4 with stainless steel lone wolf threaded barrel
    Serial# SHC025

    edit to add: has a stainless steel lone wolf threaded barrel installed.
    Last edited by dj_fatstyles; 08-16-2012 at 05:22 PM.

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    I will pass this along to the security crew at the WAC. We see many guns come across the tie-table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderTattoo View Post
    I will pass this along to the security crew at the WAC. We see many guns come across the tie-table.
    thank you sir. i will be going down to a few gunshops in the area to inform them to keep a lookout.

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    Same here at Champion... we will keep our eyes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gogodawgs View Post
    Same here at Champion... we will keep our eyes out.
    thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderTattoo View Post
    I will pass this along to the security crew at the WAC. We see many guns come across the tie-table.
    Does WAC security check serial numbers at the tie station? No. So what can you do?
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    Um, yes, we do, if given the information and description. Any Glock 21 will be looked at more carefully now in the hope of finding this gun.
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    With less vendors and shrinking attendance, it should make it easier for you. Good luck!
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    Good job. You've turned this thread into another "let's bash WAC" thread. Give it a rest. The guy had his gun stolen and is just trying to get a little help with it. Some of us here are able to keep an eye out for him. What can you do besides make incorrect statements and try to bash the gunshow?
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    i forgot to add that this g21 is very distinguishable since it has a stainless steel lone wolf threaded barrel installed. will also edit OP. thanks again for any help you guys can give.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderTattoo View Post
    Good job. You've turned this thread into another "let's bash WAC" thread. Give it a rest. The guy had his gun stolen and is just trying to get a little help with it. Some of us here are able to keep an eye out for him. What can you do besides make incorrect statements and try to bash the gunshow?
    What would you say to an Officer wanting to check your firearm serial number because he knows a particular firearm was stolen somewhere?
    MWAG calls, how similar in nature!
    Just randomly checking someones firearm with out PC.
    What would you say if someone just stopped you and asked for your serial number?
    Practice what you preach comes to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_fatstyles View Post
    some piece of s#!t came in through my sliding glass door 45 minutes ago (3:00am) and stole my glock 21. stay on look out if some lowlife wants to make money off it.
    Model# 21 gen4 with stainless steel lone wolf threaded barrel
    Serial# SHC025

    edit to add: has a stainless steel lone wolf threaded barrel installed.
    Sorry to hear you lost your sidearm and hopefully you will get it returned.
    You did not mention if you filed a police report on this and curious where was the gun where they had access to it?
    House or renters insurance should take care of the loss, unfortunately one has to take that route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDave View Post
    Sorry to hear you lost your sidearm and hopefully you will get it returned.
    You did not mention if you filed a police report on this and curious where was the gun where they had access to it?
    House or renters insurance should take care of the loss, unfortunately one has to take that route.
    i do have firearms insurance through state farm and they are covering 100% of the declared value.

    it was on my nightstand maybe a foot-foot and a half from where i was sleeping. i live on the second floor in an apt complex and the guy scaled the balcony and gained access through the screen door ive had open since its been so hot. he walked through the living room, turned on the living room light. went into the bedroom where i was sleeping, turned on the light (and im just guessing here) probably panicked and grabbed the first two things he saw of value, my gun and wallet. (found my wallet later that morning) and bolted out the front door.

    i woke up because of the light being on. bolted up from a dead sleep, looked at the nightstand saw the gun and wallet were gone. i got up and went to the living room to find the front door still swinging. i called my wife at work to see if she had left any of the lights on ro the front door unlocked. she told me that she didnt. i then called the police and filed a stolen gun report.

    i remembered that the complex has video cameras and one is on my building. so i talked with the office to see if they would be able to find anything on the cameras but they didnt find anything.

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    dj that is very unnerving that someone was in the room with you asleep and stole your firearms and wallet to boot, glad to hear that no harm came to you or your family.
    Many times the ones that steel from others is someone you know or met or have been in your apartment before I know when I lived in apartments in Tacoma before one of the maintenance men made an extra pass key for a guy that was staying with him and he was going into apartments burglarizing them while they were away, they did eventually catch him but it took a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDave View Post
    What would you say to an Officer wanting to check your firearm serial number because he knows a particular firearm was stolen somewhere?
    MWAG calls, how similar in nature!
    Just randomly checking someones firearm with out PC.
    What would you say if someone just stopped you and asked for your serial number?
    Practice what you preach comes to mind.
    This is ridiculous. We both know that your examples are nothing like what happens at the tie table at the gunshow. There is no law inforcement involved. People are voluntarily entering private property and are subject to search and having their weapons checked and tied. Security is not just some random person stopping and asking to see someone's firearm. This has nothing to do with "practice what you preach".

    Of course I would resist an illegal search from a police officer. Of course I wouldn't just give my serial number to a random person asking for it. But to equate those things with what happens at the gun tie table at the gunshow is insanity.
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    So if i show up at the next WAC show with tape over the serial number on my Glock 22, would you deny me entry?
    Nothing about this in the Rules of the Road.
    No i would not remove it for you. Nor would i try to sell it either. Really, who would buy a gun with serial number covered.
    I was not bashing the WAC just stating facts. Yes i am a member. But after reading former LEO Mr. Bill Burris's condesending, asinine article in the August issue of the WAC GunNews. Titled "Straight Talk About Firearm Carry and Safety and the Application of Safety Rules to WAC Events" I'm seriously considering turning in my WAC badge.
    Do hope he gets his G21 back though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderTattoo View Post
    This is ridiculous. We both know that your examples are nothing like what happens at the tie table at the gunshow. There is no law inforcement involved. People are voluntarily entering private property and are subject to search and having their weapons checked and tied. Security is not just some random person stopping and asking to see someone's firearm. This has nothing to do with "practice what you preach".

    Of course I would resist an illegal search from a police officer. Of course I wouldn't just give my serial number to a random person asking for it. But to equate those things with what happens at the gun tie table at the gunshow is insanity.
    And now you know why I don't visit WAC Gun Shows! (Attitudes as this, don't apply to them)
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    Now you're just being difficult for the sake of being difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderTattoo View Post
    Now you're just being difficult for the sake of being difficult.
    Nah if I was being difficult I would contact the board of directors and asked them who makes policy for entry at the door? I bet it is not you!

    And this is exactly the same attitude displayed by some officers that do not know the law or feel they can get away with it and make it up as they go, as for me neither you or them will run the serial numbers off my guns with out the force of law.
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    wow, just wow.


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    Re: BOLO stolen glock 21gen4-renton-8-15-12

    If you don't mind me asking what area of Renton are you in. I'm also in renton and things have been going crazy near me in the last few weeks.

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    is this you dj?
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    OUCH! Lets right this train!
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    Dave, I wasn't referring to you about being difficult. And by the way, I'm not making policy about checking serial numbers at the gate. That IS coming from the show manager who is given that authority by the directors. No, I'm not making the policy. I'm also not in a position to do so. But what difference does that make? Again, it's different than the police running a S/N to see if the gun is stolen. If we were to see a specific gun that was reported stolen then we would check the S/N against a known stolen S/N on a piece of note paper, to see if it was that gun. If the S/N isn't correct, we're not keeping the number of the gun we're checking, just checking it against the number that we have. Nothing gets recorded or put on any list. Quit acting like private security is the same as police.

    What's the difference if an employee at a gun shop is doing a deal/trade with a customer? If the gun shop had a list of stolen S/N's and spotted a potential match, wouldn't they check that out? It's clear that this is an anti-WAC attitude since no one is saying anything about gun shops checking for the exact same thing.

    Now seriously, all I did was offer what assistance I can to one of our fellow OC'ers to help him possibly find his gun, and two of you are jumping down my throat because of WAC policies. C'mon guys, give it a rest already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDave View Post
    Nah if I was being difficult I would contact the board of directors and asked them who makes policy for entry at the door? I bet it is not you!

    And this is exactly the same attitude displayed by some officers that do not know the law or feel they can get away with it and make it up as they go, as for me neither you or them will run the serial numbers off my guns with out the force of law.
    There's a big difference between watching for a specific serial number to pass the tie-table, and "run[ning] the serial numbers" .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tacitus42 View Post
    is this you dj?
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    LMAO. im carrying my g22 for now.

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    benson/fairwood area. the office that made contact with me for the theft said that a lot of poeple have been hit with their windows open because of the heat.

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