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    Some interesting stats. from CNN

    I don't know if the Stats are correct, but I thought I would share.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/09/politi...ica/index.html

    Here's a look by the numbers on guns in the United States and Americans' attitudes toward them.

    26 -- Percentage of Americans who favor a handgun ban, a record low, according to a 2011 Gallup Poll.

    60 -- Percentage who supported a ban in 1959, the first year Gallup asked this question.

    47 -- Percentage of Americans who told Gallup in 2011 that they had at least one gun at home.

    Analysis: Fewer U.S. gun owners own more guns

    At least 41 -- Percentage increase in background checks for new gun owners in Aurora, Colorado, on the weekend after shootings there.

    56 --Number of votes in the Senate that the assault weapons ban received in 1994.

    19
    -- Types of military-style weapons affected by the ban.

    10
    -- Years the assault weapons ban was in effect until it expired.

    Do guns make us safer?

    40
    -- Percentage of guns sold through unlicensed, private sellers.


    5,400
    -- Licensed firearms manufacturers in the United States in 2011.

    310 million
    -- Total number of nonmilitary firearms in the United States as of 2009.



    CNN iReport: 5 things gun owners want you to know
    $75 or less -- Retail price of a low-caliber handgun.


    At least $1,500
    -- Retail price of a "higher-end" shotgun or rifle.

    49
    -- Percentage of Americans who said in 2011 that protecting gun-ownership rights was important.

    46
    -- Percentage who thought gun control was more important.

    58
    -- Percentage polled in 2011 after the shootings in Tucson, Arizona, that felt mass shootings were mainly isolated events carried out by "troubled individuals."

    16,799
    -- Homicides in the United States in 2009.

    11,493
    -- Homicides by firearm in 2009.

    150,000
    -- Brady Act background checks in 2009 that led to the rejection of a potential gun buyer's application.

    39
    -- Percentage of applications denied by states because of a felony conviction or indictment.
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    Where do they get the 40% illegal firearm ownership?

    Where do they get 39% of people denied because of background checks? This says otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by protias View Post
    Where do they get the 40% illegal firearm ownership?

    Where do they get 39% of people denied because of background checks? This says otherwise.
    You know the Brady Campaign people will make up any number that fits there wants.

    The people at CNN do the same...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronS View Post
    You know the Brady Campaign people will make up any number that fits there wants.

    The people at CNN do the same...
    I tried searching for some their sources and was not able. So that either means I suck at searching, or their sources are false.
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    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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    Quote Originally Posted by protias View Post
    I tried searching for some their sources and was not able. So that either means I suck at searching, or their sources are false.
    What the 39% refers to is the percentage of applications denied were due to state laws. The other 61% of those denied were for other reasons (such as federal or local laws). It is not 39% of applications, even though it is worded that way.

    http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub...9/bcft09st.pdf

    edit: table 4 at the bottom

    edit2: I sent this email to CNN

    "In Amy Roberts article at
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/09/politi...ica/index.html

    http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub...9/bcft09st.pdf table 4

    She states that 39% of applications for firearms were denied at the State level. That is categorically false and needs to be corrected. The source material she uses actually shows that 39% of those applications that were denied were due to state denials as opposed to federal or local denials. That is the difference between a mountain and a molehill. And it calls into question whether anyone should be trusting Amy Roberts reporting at all."
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    Re: Some interesting stats. from CNN

    Quote Originally Posted by protias View Post
    Where do they get the 40% illegal firearm ownership?
    It doesn't say the 40% were illegal, does it? I read it as being private sales. How they track paperless transactions is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoTolerance View Post
    How they track paperless transactions is beyond me.
    I was wondering that as well. How does one come up with a figure for private sales? I wouldn't reveal to some polling entity how many times I've been involved in a private sale of a firearm. I'd imagine that I'm not the only person alive that feels that way. So how can the results of such a poll be remotely accurate?

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    The 40% stat is from a (drum roll please), New Youk City study.
    Bloomberg at his best. If he can't get the numbers to show what he wants, he just makes them up, and CNN bites the bait.

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    It would be great if 40% of all sales were private sales!

    Quote Originally Posted by AaronS View Post
    The 40% stat is from a (drum roll please), New Youk City study.
    Bloomberg at his best. If he can't get the numbers to show what he wants, he just makes them up, and CNN bites the bait.
    If 40% of sales are private sales, then registration attempts based on the 4473 forms make no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronS View Post
    $75 or less -- Retail price of a low-caliber handgun.
    Where the heck are they buying their guns?
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