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As far as the legislature is concerned you may not be concern with Dannel Malloy but I am.
By all means exercise your rights, but don't complain when other citizens exercise theirs by limiting your rights (allowing you on their property) and using situations, like the one in New Haven, to make your right more restrictive.
I guess the difference is what your ultimate goals are. Mine is to protect myself and my family and right now I can do that. If it's other people’s goal to prove a point or to show they know more than the police, so be it, we will all live with the consequences.
By all means exercise your rights, but don't complain when other citizens exercise theirs by limiting your rights (allowing you on their property)
and using situations, like the one in New Haven, to make your right more restrictive.
I guess the difference is what your ultimate goals are. Mine is to protect myself and my family and right now I can do that. If it's other people’s goal to prove a point or to show they know more than the police, so be it, we will all live with the consequences.
Open carry all you want, I have no issue with it, just use some common sense is all. If you think that walking into that particular movie with a gun showing was a smart thing to do we will never agree. As I said the attorney involved may very well win has case. However what are the ramifications of his action? Do you think that the public would support police not responding to a call of a man with a gun?
The guy who owns the store is not afraid of having guns in his store. He is afraid that someone will OC and cause an incident and his store will be in the news costing him business.
I'm sure that’s what happened.
As more and more people become familiar with the laws due to these types of incidents more and more people with put up no gun signs. The list will grow and grow. Then we can all stand our front yards with our gun congratulating ourselves. Then go lock it away because our kids want us to take them to the movies.
The bottom line is that this incident has not helped my personal situation.
This the first time I could not go someplace I wanted to and it was caused by a gun owner. That's why I'm complaining!
... Next year when you have to display your permit at all times (like a hunting license) don't be surprised. ...
Rich, look at the situation that I posted regarding the fake 911 call. Do you believe that most people in Connecticut would view that as a reasonable response by the police? When people find out that the police aren’t going to do anything when someone calls about a man with a gun they will want to change the law. We are pushing people into the arms of the Brady’s; I just don't understand how you don't see that.
Next year when you have to display your permit at all times (like a hunting license) don't be surprised. We have a different Governor now.
And no gun signs in some states the owner is responsible for every ones safety
Could you site please? I've been looking for info on this.
“Property owners or occupants who do not prohibit an individual from carrying a concealed weapon on their premises are immune from any liability arising from their decision,” says Ron Von Haden, CIC, Executive Vice President of the Professional Insurance Agents of Wisconsin (PIAW). “Conversely, if a business prohibits concealed carry, it may be accepting some liability for the actions of customers and employees arising from the use of a concealed weapon.”
As more and more people become familiar with the laws due to these types of incidents more and more people with put up no gun signs. The list will grow and grow. Then we can all stand our front yards with our gun congratulating ourselves. Then go lock it away because our kids want us to take them to the movies.
Personally, I believe that public education and activism are necessary to make the general public comfortable around guns...
I do not believe he would appreciate me posting his information. It is attention he is trying to avoid in the first place. I'm hoping when things calm down he will remove the sign.
It would be very beneficial to me not to drive and extra half hour to get what I need.
I don't want your help. The point of this thread is, like it or not there are sometimes negative consequences to our actions. I would hate for us to win the battle but lose the war. That war is waged in public opinion. Right now we have the public, at least enough of it to keep the politicians on our side. Loose the public support and the politicians will jump ship and laws will change. Thant is all I'm trying to get across.
Just giving a different perspective on the issue. Our action, no matter how noble, has consequences and we should be mindful of them.
Take care everyone, thanks for hearing me out.
So what exactly are you recommending? What are you asking anyone here to do?