interaction with police after seeing video of Milton Hall in Saginaw

Shadow Bear said:

If he had just had the good sense to fall down after the first shot, or even flew backwards, like in the movies, they wouldn't have felt the need to shoot again (and again, and again....):uhoh:

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stainless1911 said:

I have in hand OCed. Wasn't a danger to anyone.

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stainless1911 said:

Whatever. It was that or CC, which I hate.

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stainless1911 said:

Got caught in the rain, used a large plastic bag as a poncho. I keep a razor blade on me in case I need it foer something. That day, I was able to cut arm holes and a hole for my head so it was wearable. Trouble is, the bag went to my knees. That would have CCed my gun. Now, I thought about cutting a hole for the gun to keep it legal, but the wind would have blown my new raincoat over it, so I just OCed in hand. It was late at night, so I wasnt worried about contacting anyone. I figured if I got hit up with a spotlight, I would set the gun down, and raise my hands waiting for instructions.

I did stay dry. I decided to keep the new poncho in the car just in case I needed it again. :dude:

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griffin said:

Are you next going to blame the girl wearing the short dress for being raped? Nice.

People are responsible for their own actions and posts (including venomous replies). You, of all people, a 2A and OC advocate, would, I think, realize this. Sadly not, apparently.

I have a bag of extra commas I'm selling at the exit.

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griffin said:

We know your heart is in the right place, but some things are better left unsaid.

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stainless1911 said:

It was legal, and it worked.

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TheQ said:

sigh. This is where I point out MOC and OCDO advocate for the lawful open carry of a HOLSTERED handgun -- lest any new people or anti-gun people think otherwise.

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stainless1911 said:

Thats why I didnt post it earlier.

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Michigander said:

A knife is a more deadly weapon than a handgun in skilled hands. The time it takes to close the distance and kill with a knife is tiny.

Bearing in mind I don't know the specifics of the case, but just talking generally, a maniac with a knife, threatening violence, and refusing to drop his or her knife should probably be shot hard fast and repeatedly until dropped, even if walking away if there is a possibility that further and immediate violence will result if the lunatic isn't stopped. Every situation is different, and of course this also isn't legal advice, but we'd do very very well to remember just how fast you can go from fine to dead if stabbed.

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TheQ said:

If a trained person is 15 feet away with knife in hand and I am already drawn and aimed (such as the case for the cops here), I can pull the trigger before he closes the 15 feet. If the guy was too close, why didn't the cops back up the 20 seconds during which they were demanding him to drop the knife?

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Michigander said:

We're talking about split seconds, a world of variables, and two parties with very deadly weapons. For these reasons and others, I don't want to armchair quarterback the issue.

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stainless1911 said:

It was legal, and it worked.

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stainless1911 said:

Whatever. It was that or CC, which I hate.

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stainless1911 said:

look up the definition of brandishing. It doesn't fit.

IIRC, there is, or was at one time, a place in Tennessee where in hand OC was the only way to legally carry a gun.

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