The Big Guy
Regular Member
Below is the exchange I've had with Don on my feelings about the NRA. It started with a bulletin I got about an NRA/ILA phone bank.
I trully believe that even though we have some differences between us that we need to unite to fight the major battles. It is our best chance of getting them done. I hope this lets some of you with hesitation about the NVFAC feel a bit better about it.
TBG
Don
Thanks for the update on this but I have issues with the NRA. I used to be a supporter of the ILA but now I support GOA and SAF. As a gun rights proponent I feel I get much more bang for my buck with those 2 organizations. The NRA is not responsive to the membership and much of their efforts are not in the best interest of the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] Amendment in my opinion. I have been a life member for about 35 years and would have resigned my membership but hang around to get the magazine for free and write them the occasional letter of complaint. From others I talk to I am not alone in my opinion of them.
Tim
Tim,
You won’t get argument from me. The bigger organizations have a “bigger strategy” for their organizations that sometimes don’t help the local folks. This is why I felt compelled to start a NV based gun group. GOA tried about four years ago, and as well have several attempts. So I thought might as well try again. As a state organization we have a deal of lee way especially with local issues.
Don
Don
I don’t think they help us much on the national level either. They have sold out too many times. The last straw for me was over conceal carry. Instead of working for must issue, which tells the states they have a right to restrict firearms, they should have been working for constitutional carry only.
I’ve talked to friends in IA who are mad as hell at the NRA for running interference in their effort at constitutional carry. The NRA had a competing bill for must issue and actually lobbied against the constitutional carry effort. For some reason they think that the government has the right, and need, to license my unalienable rights as guaranteed by the US and Nevada Constitutions.
Tim
Tim,
I’ve talked to some state association directors who feel as you do.
Bottom line for us in NV, is that we need a strong state organization because politicians only respect money and fear outraged citizens. A strong organization can do both. We have been poorly represented at the state and local level for too long. Gun owners have a hard time though being unified. The shotgun guys don’t care about anyone else-and their ox is not being gored unless they own/carry handguns and rifles. The bench rest guys don’t like the three gun guys, etc. etc. etc. So it is a challenge getting them to put aside their differences and all do something united.
On another topic, we are preparing strategy to move forward (on several fronts) regarding the handgun registration and statewide preemption. I’ll keep you posted and you can let your OC folks know what we are doing and where they can help if they want. If we are successful in preemption that will resolve the county parks issue as well.
BTW I don’t believe that the CCW law should address carrying concealed on govt. property.
Don
I trully believe that even though we have some differences between us that we need to unite to fight the major battles. It is our best chance of getting them done. I hope this lets some of you with hesitation about the NVFAC feel a bit better about it.
TBG
Don
Thanks for the update on this but I have issues with the NRA. I used to be a supporter of the ILA but now I support GOA and SAF. As a gun rights proponent I feel I get much more bang for my buck with those 2 organizations. The NRA is not responsive to the membership and much of their efforts are not in the best interest of the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] Amendment in my opinion. I have been a life member for about 35 years and would have resigned my membership but hang around to get the magazine for free and write them the occasional letter of complaint. From others I talk to I am not alone in my opinion of them.
Tim
Tim,
You won’t get argument from me. The bigger organizations have a “bigger strategy” for their organizations that sometimes don’t help the local folks. This is why I felt compelled to start a NV based gun group. GOA tried about four years ago, and as well have several attempts. So I thought might as well try again. As a state organization we have a deal of lee way especially with local issues.
Don
Don
I don’t think they help us much on the national level either. They have sold out too many times. The last straw for me was over conceal carry. Instead of working for must issue, which tells the states they have a right to restrict firearms, they should have been working for constitutional carry only.
I’ve talked to friends in IA who are mad as hell at the NRA for running interference in their effort at constitutional carry. The NRA had a competing bill for must issue and actually lobbied against the constitutional carry effort. For some reason they think that the government has the right, and need, to license my unalienable rights as guaranteed by the US and Nevada Constitutions.
Tim
Tim,
I’ve talked to some state association directors who feel as you do.
Bottom line for us in NV, is that we need a strong state organization because politicians only respect money and fear outraged citizens. A strong organization can do both. We have been poorly represented at the state and local level for too long. Gun owners have a hard time though being unified. The shotgun guys don’t care about anyone else-and their ox is not being gored unless they own/carry handguns and rifles. The bench rest guys don’t like the three gun guys, etc. etc. etc. So it is a challenge getting them to put aside their differences and all do something united.
On another topic, we are preparing strategy to move forward (on several fronts) regarding the handgun registration and statewide preemption. I’ll keep you posted and you can let your OC folks know what we are doing and where they can help if they want. If we are successful in preemption that will resolve the county parks issue as well.
BTW I don’t believe that the CCW law should address carrying concealed on govt. property.
Don