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    wa must issue in 30 days...

    So I have been checking my mailbox like a kid waiting for his decoder ring....

    It's been 27 days.

    I am not nor have I ever worn the black hat so to speak.

    So the questions are,

    What happens if you aren't issued a cpl in 30 days?

    What does that mean?

    Possible outcomes? Thoughts?

    I could just be impatient....

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    Quote Originally Posted by standup View Post
    So I have been checking my mailbox like a kid waiting for his decoder ring....

    It's been 27 days.

    I am not nor have I ever worn the black hat so to speak.

    So the questions are,

    What happens if you aren't issued a cpl in 30 days?

    What does that mean?

    Possible outcomes? Thoughts?

    I could just be impatient....
    It will be there day 30....

    Do not count the day you turned in the paperwork, day 1 is the first day after that.
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    Re: wa must issue in 30 days...

    July 24th applied, got it on Aug 25th. Dated Aug 23rd by issuer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gogodawgs View Post
    It will be there day 30....

    Do not count the day you turned in the paperwork, day 1 is the first day after that.
    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeIsTrouble View Post
    July 24th applied, got it on Aug 25th. Dated Aug 23rd by issuer.
    Exactly. The 24th is not counted....
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    I walked in to Kitsap County sheriff in Silverdale. 30 minutes later walked out with a CC permit in my hand. Although that was 3 years ago.

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    Thumbs up

    Took mine about 2 weeks to arrive. really depends on the backlog of permit applications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlepnier View Post
    Took mine about 2 weeks to arrive. really depends on the backlog of permit applications.
    Or the "attitude" of the local Police Chief. In more than one city in the State the PC's have issued instructions that the permit not be issued ONE day prior to the 30th day. And then they mail it, even if it's been approved and waiting since later in the day the application was received.

    You can also run into a delay if the Department only schedules fingerprinting for one day per week. If you turn in your application on Monday, and they don't fingerprint you until the next Monday, those 7 days don't count as the app. wasn't complete without the prints.

    Some "Civil Servants" just do their jobs and others go out of their way to be "a-holes" just to make a statement on their views. It's kind of a peek into what it was like here in WA, and still is in other States, when there was "May Issue" for CPL's.
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    I think it has to do more with the local CoP or Sheriff and their attitude. Here in Okanogan County it takes about 2 days...one to process and one for the mail to get to you. May take three day over a weekend.

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    Re: wa must issue in 30 days...

    Hot lead is right I have got two CPLs from the sheriffs station in silverdale. Both times I had my CPL same day after about 30 minutes. If it helps your not alone last year I took the Utah CPL class and the state of Utah gives themselves 90 days to issue the permit, I got mine on day 89. It's always possible the mail could slow it down that is beyond the control of the local police but you I would think you should have it soon
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    Ok thanks fellas.

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    In Everett, took ten days last fall.

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    Took me about 14 day in Snohomish almost 5 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotLead View Post
    I walked in to Kitsap County sheriff in Silverdale. 30 minutes later walked out with a CC permit in my hand. Although that was 3 years ago.
    Every "Shall Issue" state should be able to issue "on the spot". It's only takes a few minutes to run a NICS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Schlepnier View Post
    Took mine about 2 weeks to arrive. really depends on the backlog of permit applications.
    If they issued on the spot, there would be no backlog.

    Quote Originally Posted by fire suppressor View Post
    Hot lead is right I have got two CPLs from the sheriffs station in silverdale. Both times I had my CPL same day after about 30 minutes. If it helps your not alone last year I took the Utah CPL class and the state of Utah gives themselves 90 days to issue the permit, I got mine on day 89. It's always possible the mail could slow it down that is beyond the control of the local police but you I would think you should have it soon
    UT gives themselves 60 days from the time they cash your check/charge your card.
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    Its election time .. not happy with the time (thinking they deliberately sit on it..) ; put some pressure on the PDs bosses .. the mayor & other elected officials.

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    My wife and I both applied for our renewals in February, it took SIX WEEKS! ouch.... good thing I went in a month early...

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    My Sweet Baboo applied for her CPL last month. We live in the city(sort of) and had to go to Bellingham PD. I went with her for fingerprints and there were no problems. Thirty days later........... no CPL. I waited two more days for the mail to catch up. Lori got a call from the fingerprint person telling her she mailed it to the wrong address, it had been returned, and we could stop by to pick it up. Very stand up, apology's all over and no other worries. On the other hand, I rec'd mine from BPD in about three weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Laigaie View Post
    We live in the city(sort of) and had to go to Bellingham PD.
    You did not HAVE to go to Bellignham PD because you live in the city. You have the option of going to the city OR county sheriff.

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    Yes, that is correct, I do have the ability to take the easy way and go see Sherrif Elfo. I know the paper will take thirty days with bellingham, that is OK because it is the law. BUT. I must go to the city because the difficulty level is higher and I just enjoy the bloody hell out of that.

    RCW 9.41.070
    Concealed pistol license — Application — Fee — Renewal.
    (13) A person may apply for a concealed pistol license:

    (a) To the municipality or to the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in a municipality;

    (b) To the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in an unincorporated area; or

    (c) Anywhere in the state if the applicant is a nonresident.
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    Purely speculative...

    What if 'lost in the mail' becomes frequent?

    What if 'backlog' becomes the norm?

    How far can excuses be justified?

    Is there any recourse if the thirty days is not met ( not just personally ) but as a norm?

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    Does anybody know if you are required to apply for your CPL in the county that you reside? I live in Pierce county but I will be in Kitsap county the beginning of september and I would like to apply there since it seems that the silverdale sheriff's office has a very short waiting period for getting your CPL.

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    -_- seems that living in pierce county, I am required to apply at the LESA office in down town tacoma... absolutely rediculous...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim_Night View Post
    Does anybody know if you are required to apply for your CPL in the county that you reside? I live in Pierce county but I will be in Kitsap county the beginning of september and I would like to apply there since it seems that the silverdale sheriff's office has a very short waiting period for getting your CPL.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grim_Night View Post
    -_- seems that living in pierce county, I am required to apply at the LESA office in down town tacoma... absolutely rediculous...
    If you want to apply in Kitsap then just wait until the first of September when you move their, obtain something with your new address as an electric bill, phone, rent receipt or such and go apply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDave View Post
    If you want to apply in Kitsap then just wait until the first of September when you move their, obtain something with your new address as an electric bill, phone, rent receipt or such and go apply.
    No... I have business in port orchard on the 7th... I figured I might as well apply for my CPL in kitsap county while I'm there since it seems that it's possible to be able to walk out with my CPL in hand same day that I apply. But it seems that since I live in pierce county, I have to apply in pierce county... and based on this...

    If you live… ~~> Apply at…
    In an unincorporated area of a county in Washington State ~~> Your county sheriff’s office
    In an incorporated city or town in Washington State ~~> The police department in your city or town or Your county sheriff’s office
    Outside of Washington State (not a Washington resident) ~~> Any local law enforcement agency in Washington

    I *should* be able to apply at any sheriff's office in my county but pierce forces you to go to the LESA office in downtown tacoma only

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim_Night View Post
    No... I have business in port orchard on the 7th... I figured I might as well apply for my CPL in kitsap county while I'm there since it seems that it's possible to be able to walk out with my CPL in hand same day that I apply. But it seems that since I live in pierce county, I have to apply in pierce county... and based on this...

    If you live… ~~> Apply at…
    In an unincorporated area of a county in Washington State ~~> Your county sheriff’s office
    In an incorporated city or town in Washington State ~~> The police department in your city or town or Your county sheriff’s office
    Outside of Washington State (not a Washington resident) ~~> Any local law enforcement agency in Washington

    I *should* be able to apply at any sheriff's office in my county but pierce forces you to go to the LESA office in downtown tacoma only
    You live in Tacoma and are not planning to move then yes you get to apply at the LESA office, I have no idea why you thought you could apply in another county then the one you live in?
    I am aware also that some counties will not take the application if you live within the city limits but by the time you end up fighting that your permit would have been with you for months already.
    If you want to fight it with Pierce County then by all means.

    RCW 9.41.070 (13) A person may apply for a concealed pistol license:

    (a) To the municipality or to the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in a municipality;

    (b) To the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in an unincorporated area; or

    (c) Anywhere in the state if the applicant is a nonresident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDave View Post
    You live in Tacoma and are not planning to move then yes you get to apply at the LESA office, I have no idea why you thought you could apply in another county then the one you live in?
    I am aware also that some counties will not take the application if you live within the city limits but by the time you end up fighting that your permit would have been with you for months already.
    If you want to fight it with Pierce County then by all means.
    You also have things like here in Okanogan Co, all of the towns will tell you to apply at the Sheriff's department. No-one else wants to invest in the electronic fingerprint scanners.

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