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    A weather modification to monopoly the food?

    Drought, A weather modification to monopoly the food?

    Quote, "Weather Modification
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    This is in my opinion the biggest threat to our planet (other than big government) and the food supply. The Government has developed methods of controlling and manipulating the weather. The agendas of course, we can only speculate, however the ability to control the weather is very much the ability to control the food supply, and precipitation cycle.


    The phenomenon as "chemtrails" is the spraying of Aluminum and other heavy metals, to reflect sunlight back, and absorbing moisture in the air to effect precipitation patterns. Now, this is going on right above you, and it's easy to determine the difference between a jet contrail and a chemtrail.

    Here is a website that lists U.S. patents for the weather modification.

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    This stuff is raining down and destroying the soil, altering the pH, and making it impossible for crops to grow. Now, the kicker is, Monsanto has developed strains of seeds that are RESISTANT to these effects. Essentially, they can create a monopoly on food, by forcing you to purchase their aluminum and drought resistant seeds. If you control how much food there is or it's availability, you can dramatically influence whats happening in the country, and the political spectrum, as we become dependent on large corporations for our food supply.

    They're destroying the organic farmer.

    http://forum.grasscity.com/politics/...ification.html

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    Mostly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sq-VmBMHkw but there is some actual science in there, too.

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    Can't buy it. We might be able to make a small difference on a local (think county) scale, to alter the weather even in 1 Midwestern state would take more energy than the output of the whole planet. We are just entering another weather pattern like= we were in the 1930's

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    I can't buy into the weather control stuff too much. But I'll eat my shorts if the gov hasn't tried.
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    A weather modification to monopoly the food?

    What they control is the medias spin on the weather to get us to buy stuff or buy in quantities we wouldn't normally buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twoskinsonemanns View Post
    I can't buy into the weather control stuff too much. But I'll eat my shorts if the gov hasn't tried.
    They why waste our time on a treaty were we [the US government] agreed not to use our weather control technology as a weapon against OTHER countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
    This is in my opinion the biggest threat to our planet
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    The phenomenon as "chemtrails"...
    Paranoid psychoticism is a bigger threat to our planet, and I'm speaking as a 20-year USAF aviator with more than 2,500 hours and TS+ security clearances.

    The notion of chemtrails is a myth, and NO, I'm part of some governmental conspiracy. I've been all over several large aircraft, certified to fly several of of them, and none of them could or would ever have supported this notion.

    Sorry to disappoint you, but get over it. They're contrails, not "chemtrails."

    If you want something you can sink your teeth into, skip to Obama's status as a foreign student receiving payments while in college, or his 1981 trip to Pakistan, which could only have been made under an Indonesian or British passport.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-gal View Post
    What they control is the medias spin on the weather to get us to buy stuff or buy in quantities we wouldn't normally buy.
    Bingo! And what a great way to divert your attention from the hand that's holding the ball (real issues).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1Man View Post
    They why waste our time on a treaty were we [the US government] agreed not to use our weather control technology as a weapon against OTHER countries.
    Cite please.

    And even if you can I'm sure you can also find our treaties promising not to use our space lasers.

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    But global warming is a myth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkey View Post
    Cite please.

    And even if you can I'm sure you can also find our treaties promising not to use our space lasers.
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/3436120/UN...-Weapon-Treaty

    I had it as a PDF on one of my old computers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beebobby View Post
    But global warming is a myth.
    Not a myth~~we couldn't survive if the globe did not warm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1Man View Post
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/3436120/UN...-Weapon-Treaty

    I had it as a PDF on one of my old computers.
    Page 3 ... enough said.
    Recognizing that scientific and technical advances may open new possibilities with respect to modification of the environment,
    Now to find the treaties on non-existent space lasers.
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    I am so glad I am allergic to tin foil hats...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkey View Post
    Page 3 ... enough said.


    Now to find the treaties on non-existent space lasers.
    Seeing Walking Wolf's post I want to make it's understood that I'm saying this does not exist. The treaty referenced "possibilities" not an actual weapon.

    I think that comment was directed at others but just trying to clarify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkey View Post
    Seeing Walking Wolf's post I want to make it's understood that I'm saying this does not exist. The treaty referenced "possibilities" not an actual weapon.
    Agreed. Although we have the technology to use ion rockets and ground-based lasers to move a select few asteroids into impacting our Earth, ostensibly to create a nuclear-like winter which would cool the planet.

    That's a far cry from a claim that we'd actually do this, much less that we're actually doing this. Not only would the scientific community be in ridiculous uproar (not too keen on keep secrets, either), but downsides, including widespread elimination of biodiversity wouldn't have them in an "uproar." It would have then in a full-scale revolt.

    Not gonna happen.
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    Odd coincidence that the rains came to the Midwest just as Obama is getting ready to speak in NC.....odd indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Odd coincidence that the rains came to the Midwest just as Obama is getting ready to speak in NC.....odd indeed.

    Were you ever tested for schizophrenia as I suggested months back. Again, this is not a personal attack, I'm serious. I'm concerned for your well being.

    ETA Oh, wait that was dreamer whatever. My bad.
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    Rush Limbaugh believes.

    Rush Limbaugh Says Obama Manipulated Isaac Storm Track To Delay GOP Convention: ‘The Hurricane Center Is … Obama’

    By Stephen Lacey on Aug 27, 2012

    On his radio show today, Rush Limbaugh suggested that the government manipulated hurricane forecasts in order to force Republicans to cancel a day of their national convention, saying the model “allows them to do it.”

    “The hurricane center is the regime; the hurricane center is the Commerce Department. It’s the government. It’s Obama,” said Limbaugh.

    In reality, the National Hurricane Center forecast is, roughly, what you get if “you average together the track forecasts from” several models, most of which are done by other organizations, in some cases other countries. Obama would have more luck using his apparently omniscient powers to alter the course of the hurricane itself than somehow trying to rejigger the storm tracks from all these different models, which are publicly available and updated continuously.

    http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...ama/?mobile=nc

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    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
    Rush Limbaugh believes.

    There's a huge difference between believing in changing actual weather and changing a weather forecast.

    He's looney too though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    Paranoid psychoticism is a bigger threat to our planet, and I'm speaking as a 20-year USAF aviator with more than 2,500 hours and TS+ security clearances.

    The notion of chemtrails is a myth, and NO, I'm part of some governmental conspiracy. I've been all over several large aircraft, certified to fly several of of them, and none of them could or would ever have supported this notion.

    Sorry to disappoint you, but get over it. They're contrails, not "chemtrails."

    If you want something you can sink your teeth into, skip to Obama's status as a foreign student receiving payments while in college, or his 1981 trip to Pakistan, which could only have been made under an Indonesian or British passport.

    Ignorant people or those who disguised as expert is a threat to our planet. I say so even without any experience but by common sense.

    China is going to start developing this kind of technique while US has applied it on politics already. They are Katrina and Issac.

    China plans further steps to enhance weather modification

    English.news.cn 2012-08-31 00:13:46
    BEIJING, Aug. 30 (Xinhua) -- China said Thursday it will take more active steps to enhance weather modification, in a bid to better serve agricultural production and disaster relief work.

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/ch..._123653160.htm

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    Iran attacked by weather modification?

    Enemies of Islamic Republic plan to destroy rain clouds before they reach Iran: Ahmadinejad
    Reuters | Sep 11, 2012

    DUBAI, Sept 11 — Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has accused his country’s enemies of enacting a sinister plan to create a drought by somehow destroying the rain clouds before they reach Iran, several Iranian websites reported on Tuesday.

    Well-known for his anti-American and anti-Israeli rhetoric, Ahmadinejad has made similar remarks before and last year accused the West of devising a plot to cause drought in the Islamic republic.

    “The enemy destroys the clouds that are headed towards our country and this is a war Iran will win,” Ahmadinejad said on Monday, according to several websites including the BBC’s Persian-language site and www.snn.ir.

    http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/09...n-ahmadinejad/

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    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
    Iran attacked by weather modification?
    That would take major cloud seeding outside of Iran. So much so that it would be noticed, at least by what I know of possible weather modification.

    He's as looney as Rush Limbaugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkey View Post
    That would take major cloud seeding outside of Iran. So much so that it would be noticed, at least by what I know of possible weather modification.

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    Seven years ago, I alleged the government to reform the commercial plane to spread chemical and fly at night. Hope that will answer your question.

    355. Hurricane (4): Chemical and climate war(11/2/05)

    The chemical used to create a hurricane is possibly a kind of refrigerant. When the compressed refrigerant is released in air, it gasifies quickly and sucks a lot of heat. That's how a refrigerant works. When it is used in a closed cabinet, that plane becomes a cooler of the refrigerator. This was what happened in Greece air plane.

    Freon was a popular refrigerant. Several years ago, scientists said it destroyed the ozonosphere and banned it. It means Freon reacts with part element of air.

    To destroy the ozonosphere takes a large quantity of Freon. I think it was the result when it was used in experiment of a covert climate war. I also believe this is why Bush rejected the Tokyo treaty. The government knew they are altering the weather deliberately.

    Since climate war depends on chemical spreading, how can Feds apply it on other countries? Read the news here.

    Quote, "Treat of shoulder fired missiles prompts action

    By steve Johnson
    Mercury News, 4/8/2004

    Some federal officials hope to modify US commercial planes to fire lasers, launch flares ...... fly at night with lights dimmed to foil terrorists armed with portable missiles.

    While no planes in this country have come under missile attack so far, the government wants to be prepared."

    A device which launches flares also can spread chemical. And how can it avoid being spotted with a chemtrail? Fly at night. All this was in the name of anti-terrorist.

    Anyhow, the proposal was denied by the House due to the high cost. Then I have heard two news.

    One was in newspaper. (I didn't keep that newspaper because at first I didn't realize the real meaning behind it) It said because the fuel cost was too high, commercial airline decided to reduce the flight weight. One way was to reduce the water reserve which used to flush the toilet by half.

    The other one was from a TV news. It said a family was stunned when their roof of the house was broken through by a chunk of ice. Later it was proved the ice was the toilet water of a commercial plane. It said the toilet water released by air plane encountered with a cool air and froze to an ice.

    My allegation is this was an experiment when a commercial plane was reformed to spread chemical. It may also prove my allegation that the chemical was a kind of refrigerant which can freeze certain amount of water instantly.

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    353. Hurricane (3) Chemical and Greece air accident (10/27/05)

    When I said Hurricane Katrina and Rita were created by Feds for a framed case, there were sarcasms such like "You mean government has a weather machine?", or "to create a hurricane with a fan?". Those people, either are very ignorant, or most likely, to smear a truth on purpose. Government doesn't use an oven to produce a warm weather or use a fan to blow wind, just like they don't sprinkle the water to make an artificial rain. They use chemical. (see #218. Chemtrail and climate war)

    Control climate generally means control the movement of air stream. By controlling area air pressure or temperature, people can build artificial air passage or air wall, (of course, invisible, but sometimes people saw the chemtrail in the sky) guide the air mass move to area they want. Either it is cold air mass, or warm air mass, or humid or dry air mass.
    Now let's turn on to the crash of Greece air plane which I alleged one of four accidents done by intelligence. It caused my attention for its mysterious situation. Here are news about it.

    Quote, "YAHOO NEWS:
    Cypriot plane crashes near Athens, 121 killed
    By Yannis Behrakis

    A Cypriot airliner crashed into a mountainous area north of Athens on Sunday killing all 121 people on board after apparently suffering a loss of cabin pressure or oxygen.

    "The pilot has turned blue," a passenger said in a mobile text message to his cousin, according to Greek television. "Cousin farewell, we're freezing." "

    http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...ST+FAQ+EDITION

    Quote, "Greece Plane Crash Kills All Aboard

    "Shortly before the crash, the jet pilots saw one of the airline pilots slumped unconscious over the controls, ...... Some Greek media reports said fighter pilots also could see oxygen masks dangling inside the cabin."

    http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/arti...00010000000001

    What took place in the Greece plane seemed as follows: the cabin lost pressure, oxygen and temperature.

    But it's a Boeing 737. One of the most advanced air craft. And the plane has a well designed oxygen supply and pressurization system. So far we have never heard any problem of the insulation broken which caused low pressure that killed the people on board. This was the only one.

    A spokesman for the European Aviation Safety Agency, Daniel Holtgen, based in Cologne, Germany, said: "It is highly unlikely that the loss of cabin pressure alone would cause such an incident. There would have to be other contributing factors." (source, the above Yahoo News)

    What were the other factors? It's a puzzle. Then it came the Katrina and Rita. In a TV news report about a research plane which flew over the hurricane, I caught what the researcher said. He said he couldn't believe it that the air pressure was incredible low outside the plane. It suddenly touched off my mind. I thought Feds spreading chemical to control the pressure of air to alter the weather. If the air pressure could be created so low to astonish the researcher, (it was in open air, air would flow from other area to refill) then what would have happened if it was in a closed cabin? I thought of the Greece plane.

    I think it is a chemical which is easy to gasify and easy to react with the element part of air (either oxygen, nitrogen or carbon dioxide) and developed to another substance.(either liquid such like water, or solid) Air, after losing part of its element, has lost pressure. The chemical reaction also sucks heat.

    A hurricane needs a warm air mass with rich water vapor. Ocean supplies it. A hurricane also needs big air pressure difference and temperature difference above it. This chemical supplies it. That's how an artificial hurricane developed.

    When that chemical is used in a closed cabin. The low pressure and temperature it created will kill the people inside it. Oxygen may be exhausted as a component in the reaction. That's what happened in the Greece air plane.

    I allege Feds used the same chemical in Greece air accident as they used in hurricane creation. It's not a coincidence when I said the four air accidents was a cover up operation of Feds and Katrina and Rita were created for the same framed case. (to be continued)

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    As someone who has spent over 2,500 hours flying B-52s and C-130s, I find this line of bunk to be bunk. It defies the laws of physics, not to mention reality. It's *********, and I couldn't put it any more nicely manner. It really is that bad.
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