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    Michigan Open Carry Rally for SB-59 in Monroe, MI - 9/30

    The leadership of Michigan Open Carry, Inc. is organizing a rally in Monroe Michigan (Home town of Randy Richardville, Michigan State Senate Majority Leader) to protest the lack of movement on SB-59, a bill that would allow anyone with a CPL to get an exemption from Michigan's Concealed Gun Free Zones (this would also "legitimize" the "Open carry in a PFZ" loophole).

    Before our previous rally, Senator Randy Richardville called Michigan Open Carry, Inc. president, Phillip Hofmeister, to discuss the bill. Richardville said in that conversation "I'll talk to the speaker [of the House] to see if we can get it on the agenda in September." Well, we're holding this rally for one of two reasons:

    1. To hold his feet to the fire, if it doesn't get passed out of the Senate by Sept. 30.
    2. To thank him (maybe offer him a guest speaking role at the event) if the bill has passed out of the Senate.

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    Event Details:
    Where:
    Rally Point:
    St. Mary's Park
    Corner of Monroe and Elm
    Monroe, MI

    Restaurant:
    Dena Family Restaurant
    15391 Dixie Highway,
    Monroe, MI

    When: Sept, 30 2012 (2:00 PM - 5:00 PM):
    Between 1:40 PM and 2:00 PM: Arrive at St. Mary's Park
    Between 1:40 PM and 2:30 PM: Meet and Greet, Socialize, and Make signs from stencils
    Between 2:30 PM and 3:15 PM: Take to the streets of downtown Monroe.
    Between 3:15 PM and 3:30 PM: After arriving back in St. Mary's park, head to restaurant for early dinner

    What to do to attend


    What to bring
    • Like last time, bring a piece of 28" x 22" posterboard. We saved the stencils from last time and we will re-use them to remake signs again this time.
    • Bring an energized, positive, and respectable attitude.
    • Yourself wearing respectable clothing. How we present ourselves will impact the effectiveness of our message.
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    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

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    Re: Michigan Open Carry Rally for SB-59 in Monroe, MI - 9/30

    Outstanding! The only way the folks in Lansing are going to do anything is if they understand that they may have their feet held to the political fire so to speak.


    Nothing like giving our law makers the attention they deserve!

    Giving up civil rights for security is a certain way to lose both!
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    Michigan Open Carry Rally for SB-59 in Monroe, MI - 9/30

    Bump. This is for our rights people. Would you drive to Monroe if they were selling gently used M-4's for $50?
    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

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    Michigan Open Carry Rally for SB-59 in Monroe, MI - 9/30

    Bump. Who is in?
    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

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    I attended the first one will likely attend this one, hopefully with the wife this time. Is it possible for someone from MOC to bring some tri folds to purchase? Did I miss that last time if they were offered? I did see some of us passing out a few last rally and thought that was a great idea (duh).

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    Michigan Open Carry Rally for SB-59 in Monroe, MI - 9/30

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken56 View Post
    I attended the first one will likely attend this one, hopefully with the wife this time. Is it possible for someone from MOC to bring some tri folds to purchase? Did I miss that last time if they were offered? I did see some of us passing out a few last rally and thought that was a great idea (duh).
    We don't generally charge for tri-folds. I'll give you 10 if you promise to pass them out.

    Donations always happily accepted.
    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

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    Q, thanks. I like the shiney paper that the official ones are printed on, lol. I usually print off my own when I need them but haven't been able to get my printer to co operate to print 2 sided brochure style. I did it before but now I can't seem to figure out how I did it. I will keep working on that.

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    Any Idea where its going to be in Monroe.

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    Michigan Open Carry Rally for SB-59 in Monroe, MI - 9/30

    Quote Originally Posted by onestar 50 View Post
    Any Idea where its going to be in Monroe.
    "stay tuned"
    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

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    Count me in for sure.

    Trying to excite many more people into attending as well.
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    If the weather is half way decent my wife and I will be come probably since she is oxygen and plus in a Motorize wheel chair. I will probably be oced and she might be cc.

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    Re: Michigan Open Carry Rally for SB-59 in Monroe, MI - 9/30

    Cannot make it. Wish you good people the best, from Warren a trully ak bassward town.

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    I'm in, so is the wife unless she has to work. If she has to I will bring our son. Just waiting for the location.

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    Michigan Open Carry Rally for SB-59 in Monroe, MI - 9/30

    Location is St. Mary's park. Meet there between 1:30 and 2:00.
    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

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    OP updated with details
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    Are we OCed our weapon also at the rally. I will be there also
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    Michigan Open Carry Rally for SB-59 in Monroe, MI - 9/30

    Quote Originally Posted by onestar 50 View Post
    Are we OCed our weapon also at the rally. I will be there also
    Open Carry of a holstered handgun is welcome.
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    If this bill get pass how will it effect the open carry with cpl in pfz. I read some where in this form it will close the loop hoop about oc in pfz.

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    Is this going to be solely an open carry event or is there an expectation that other Michigan Second Amemendment groups and supporters might be in attendance at this rally?
    Last edited by bandersnatch; 09-25-2012 at 11:40 PM. Reason: spelling
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    Michigan Open Carry Rally for SB-59 in Monroe, MI - 9/30

    Quote Originally Posted by onestar 50 View Post
    If this bill get pass how will it effect the open carry with cpl in pfz. I read some where in this form it will close the loop hoop about oc in pfz.
    This bill will not affect open carry a pistol free zone at all. What it would do is *legitimize* the "loophole" -- making it less "absurd" (Judge Aquilina in People v Watkins)
    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

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    Michigan Open Carry Rally for SB-59 in Monroe, MI - 9/30

    Quote Originally Posted by bandersnatch View Post
    Is this going to be solely an open carry event or is there an expectation that other Michigan Second Amemendment groups and supporters might be in attendance at this rally?
    At our last event people who participate on and are members of MGO showed up. These people are not members of nor participate in Michigan Open Carry.

    I hope this answers your question?
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    Have been Ill with a BAD cold since last saturday. I doubt I will be attending the rally tomorrow. I would not want to infect anyone else with this. I am still coughing my head off so I must stay home. I enjoyed the first rally so sorry about that as I was looking forward to comming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken56 View Post
    Have been Ill with a BAD cold since last saturday. I doubt I will be attending the rally tomorrow. I would not want to infect anyone else with this. I am still coughing my head off so I must stay home. I enjoyed the first rally so sorry about that as I was looking forward to comming.
    I believe that you'd not be there a day early - the rally is Sunday, Sept. 30th.
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    Thanks. I am not thinking straight. Is carrying on cold meds ' under the infulence'? I am not sure another day will make any difference in my attending but I assure everyone I will not impose my germs upon you.

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