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Florida Airport Carry

Jay Jacobs

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Quote from the FL statutes on places off limits: "inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport"


While the word "any" seems to make it clear enough. Does anyone know for a fact if this was intended to apply only to airline terminals or all airports including general aviation airport terminals on airports with no airline service?

If not I think I'll write the state AG and ask.
 

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Quote from the FL statutes on places off limits: "inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport"


While the word "any" seems to make it clear enough. Does anyone know for a fact if this was intended to apply only to airline terminals or all airports including general aviation airport terminals on airports with no airline service?

If not I think I'll write the state AG and ask.

Means just what it says, Jay. Any airport. Folks I know that utilize general aviation facilities stay out of the passenger terminal...if there is one present.
 

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Means just what it says, Jay. Any airport. Folks I know that utilize general aviation facilities stay out of the passenger terminal...if there is one present.
Thanks. Odd though that next door in GA one can carry inside the busiest airline terminal in the world right up to the TSA check point but in FL you can't even carry in a general aviation only terminal. I guess logic wasn't utilized by the FL state legislators while composing the statutes.
 

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Thanks. Odd though that next door in GA one can carry inside the busiest airline terminal in the world right up to the TSA check point but in FL you can't even carry in a general aviation only terminal. I guess logic wasn't utilized by the FL state legislators while composing the statutes.

It was the same here in FL, initially, Jay. Could carry in the non-sterile areas of any airport. Someone slipped a mickey into an unrelated bill when the NRA wasn't looking. We're trying to change it back. No reason for the limitation.
 

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Thanks. Odd though that next door in GA one can carry inside the busiest airline terminal in the world right up to the TSA check point but in FL you can't even carry in a general aviation only terminal. I guess logic wasn't utilized by the FL state legislators while composing the statutes.

>logic

>florida state legislators

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It was the same here in FL, initially, Jay. Could carry in the non-sterile areas of any airport. Someone slipped a mickey into an unrelated bill when the NRA wasn't looking. We're trying to change it back.
Do you know why some of the odder carry restrictions in FL law are there? Like sporting events, school administrative buildings that aren't on school grounds, and "vo-tech" centers (which presumably are adult instruction, not minors)?
 

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GA airports do not have "passenger terminals". They have "Fixed Based Operators" that provide " through-the-fence" access to the flight line to qualified individuals. All well established stuff.
 

Jay Jacobs

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GA airports do not have "passenger terminals". They have "Fixed Based Operators" that provide " through-the-fence" access to the flight line to qualified individuals. All well established stuff.
I'm not sure I know what you're getting at. All 50 states have general aviation only airports with FBO's.

I'm a 30+ year professional pilot BTW.
 

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I'm not sure I know what you're getting at. All 50 states have general aviation only airports with FBO's.

I'm a 30+ year professional pilot BTW.

GA = General Aviation. Not a state.

You can carry in FL at an FBO, and even on to the ramp, just don't go in to the commercial air carrier (FAR Part 121) "passenger terminal".
 
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Jay Jacobs

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GA = General Aviation. Not a state.

You can carry in FL at an FBO, and even on to the ramp, just don't go in to the commercial air carrier (FAR Part 121) "passenger terminal".
So you're in disagreement with earlier responders then? And you think it is legal to carry in an FBO in the state of FL?
 

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So you're in disagreement with earlier responders then? And you think it is legal to carry in an FBO in the state of FL?

I do it all the time. I just admitted that publicly. I am the Executive Director of Florida's largest independent Second Amendment rights organization. If I were not sure, I wouldn't do it.

Please feel free to consult your own attorney if you are concerned. I'm happy to recommend some if you need one who knows FL firearms laws well.

If a general aviation airport had a "passenger terminal" under the federal meaning of the term, that would be different. An FBO is not the same thing. Pt. 135 operations are also not the same as Pt. 121. As a commercial pilot, this should be no surprise to you.
 
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Do you know why some of the odder carry restrictions in FL law are there? Like sporting events, school administrative buildings that aren't on school grounds, and "vo-tech" centers (which presumably are adult instruction, not minors)?

School administration buildings that are not on school grounds are not off limits (Florida Carry just had a case recently concerning this).

As to the others...part of the sausage making process. I was all ready on active duty during the '87 legislative session, so am not privy as to what all happened that produced the final bill that became the Jack Hagler Self-Defense Act (790.06).
 

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School administration buildings that are not on school grounds are not off limits (Florida Carry just had a case recently concerning this).
Is that a recent change in case law? Why do cheat sheets like the handgunlaw.us ones have school administration buildings as a separate restriction from school grounds? It would be redundant if it were limited to school grounds, since school grounds are already an off-limits area.
 

Jay Jacobs

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...If a general aviation airport had a "passenger terminal" under the federal meaning of the term, that would be different. An FBO is not the same thing. Pt. 135 operations are also not the same as Pt. 121. As a commercial pilot, this should be no surprise to you.
THIS is actually what I was hoping the statute meant when I started the thread. Thanks for the response. I live and am licensed in Georgia but travel to Florida frequently. (I CC at airports)
 
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Hey, this thread worked out just fine for me. It even answered some nagging questions I had about private airport property!

I wind up on the "non-commercial" side of the airport fence from time to time and wasn't quite sure of my legality in Florida.

All those years as an FFDO and it wasn't a problem but then I retired and now I'm just like all the other "civilians" out there!

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This is an old thread, but I'll add this for the benefit of anyone coming across it during a search for relevant information.
This is the line from the statutory section on places "off-limits" to carry that applies to this question.

10. Any elementary or secondary school facility or administration building;

It appears that school administration buildings are included in the prohibition on carry. There is no stipulation that the building must be on a school campus to be either included in, or excluded from, the prohibition.

Now, it appears that a school board office might actually be excluded from the prohibition because it is not the administration building to any one primary or secondary school. If I'm right about that, the one exception would be into the section of the office in which a meeting of the school board is actively taking place. See below (from the same statutory section.)

7. Any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district;
 
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