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    surprised no thread on this

    i'm surprised that i haven't seen a thread on this guy losing his appeal about being detained for his ak47


    http://www.wsmv.com/story/19423519/c...to-radnor-lake

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    well,,,

    look up an old poster here,,, his user name was Kwikrnu,,, spelling???

    he was a dedicated cop baiter, not that theres anything wrong with that...

    his AK had a orange painted tip.

    he caused a lot of commotion here with his posting style.
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    surprised no thread on this

    He was at MOC's forum under the same name -- look in General Discussion and the Ammo Dump.
    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1245A Defender View Post

    he was a dedicated cop baiter, not that theres anything wrong with that...
    There isn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1245a defender View Post
    look up an old poster here,,, his user name was kwikrnu,,, spelling???

    He was a dedicated attention *****, not that theres anything wrong with that...

    His ak had a orange painted tip.

    He caused a lot of commotion here with his posting style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mirussell View Post
    i'm surprised that i haven't seen a thread on this guy losing his appeal about being detained for his ak47
    Reply #59 in this thread begins the discussion on the new decision ("we affirm"):

    http://forums.michiganopencarry.org/...ic,1869.0.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by mirussell View Post
    i'm surprised that i haven't seen a thread on this guy losing his appeal about being detained for his ak47


    http://www.wsmv.com/story/19423519/c...to-radnor-lake
    i'm guessing you would see a thread in the TN forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQ View Post
    He was at MOC's forum under the same name -- look in General Discussion and the Ammo Dump.
    Yes, he added so much to the conversation there that I too would direct anyone who wishes to read what he posted to go on over to MOC's website. He did a great job getting a case argued in front of the 6th circuit. Yeah for us!!
    Last edited by DrTodd; 09-03-2012 at 09:15 PM.
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    surprised no thread on this

    Quote Originally Posted by DrTodd View Post
    Yes, he added so much to the conversation there that I too would direct anyone who wishes to read what he posted to go on over to MOC's website. He did a great job getting a case argued all the way to the 6th circuit. Yeah for us!!
    Anyone can get a case to the 6th circuit (with enough $). The first appeal in a court system is By Right.
    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQ View Post
    Anyone can get a case to the 6th circuit (with enough $). The first appeal in a court system is By Right.
    I am aware of that. And? The fact is that we now have a 6th Circuit case (our circuit, btw) that clearly states that carrying a firearm that appears to an officer to be unusual now provides RAS... and a detention can last for as long as necessary if the suspect asks for a supervisor to intervene. Taking into account that, for a number of reasons, this was not the type of case we need argued before any court that has jurisdiction in Michigan.
    Last edited by DrTodd; 09-03-2012 at 09:21 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTodd View Post
    I am aware of that. And? The fact is that we now have a 6th Circuit case (our circuit, btw) that clearly states that carrying a firearm that appears to an officer to be unusual now provides RAS... and a detention can last for as long as necessary if the suspect asks for a supervisor to intervene. Taking into account that, for a number of reasons, this was not the type of case we need argued before any court that has jurisdiction in Michigan.
    I agree ... the court ruled incorrectly. Baiting? You could say that of ANYONE doing ANYTHING. Commie judges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    I agree ... the court ruled incorrectly. Baiting? You could say that of ANYONE doing ANYTHING. Commie judges.
    Never considered his actions as "baiting", rather that his behavior makes it hard to get support from the gun-owning community even if they really want to. When both the Brady Campaign and the CCRKBA are on the same side in their amici curiae, that indicates something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raggs View Post
    There isn't?
    In certain instances, there is nothing wrong with that.

    Noone throws a fit when the police go out and wait for us to break the law, (I.E. Speed traps, seatbelt enforcement), so whats the problem with citizens putting ourselves out there to do the same?
    The only terrorists I see nowadays are at the Capital.


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