I think you handled it perfectly! Kudos
Here's the situation: I was down at a local store last night around 7PM (for reasons of privacy since a big deal was not really made here, I won't post the store's name, I just want to see how you all would have handled this situation). I walk in, and there's really no one in there, and I'm looking at something in the front, and I see someone walk up beside me. I look, and it's an employee of the store, just standing there (I had my gun facing the side the employee was standing at). The following took place:
Employee: "Excuse me"
Me: "Is there a problem?" (nicely)
Employee: "Can you do me a favor?"
Me: "What's that?"
Employee: "Can you cover that up or something?"
Me: "Cover what up?"
Employee: "Your weapon"
Me: (I looked at her like she was nuts for a few seconds then said, nicely) "I'm sorry ma'am, but I can't do that. If I did, I would be in violation of the law and could go to prison."
Employee: "Well why not?"
Me: (again nicely) "Ma'am, I don't have a Concealed Handgun Permit. If I were to cover that weapon, I would be breaking the law by concealing without a permit. (The shirt I had on wouldn't have covered the holster anyway). Even if I had a concealed carry permit, open carry is fully legal in NC, and I'm not required by law to cover my gun or carry concealed at all times. If this will be a problem during my visit, I can leave and go down to the local Wal-Mart to get what I need."
Employee: *just stares at me with one of those "I'm not too happy about this" looks on her face*
Me: (After about 5 seconds) Well, If there will be no further issues, I'll get what I need and be on my way. Have a great evening."
The rest of the visit went without incident. You could tell she wasn't too happy. The manager was out for the evening, otherwise I may have asked to speak to him about what happened. I later that evening found out from someone that knows her that guns make her nervous. I'm sorry that guns make her nervous, but that doesn't give you a right to trample on people's rights and ask them to cover their weapons. What that employee did was pretty bold and uncalled for, if you ask me. The real kicker here is that the County Sheriff's office is right the down the road, and on-and-off duty Sheriff's Deputies come in there carrying their duty weapons constantly.
But enough with my opinion. I now ask you all this question: Based on what I've given you above, if you were in my position, what would you have done? I ask this so that if I'm ever in a position like this again, I know how to properly handle it, and not give OC'ers a bad name. Thanks ahead of time.
I think you handled it perfectly! Kudos
i think you did fine and it is up to you if you want to follow up with contacting the management.
sense she didn't ask you to leave you are in the good
Luke 22:36 ; 36Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
"guns are like a Parachute, if you don't have one when you need it, you will not need one again"
i you call a CHP a CCW then you are really stupid. period.
Firstly, unless this was a publicly owned building you gave the asst. mngr. incorrect information. You could have covered the weapon for her. Concealed carry permits are for carrying concealed in public. On private property you can legally carry concealed with permission. Secondly, do you put your rights ahead of the owners of the business? You want people to respect your 2A rights but seem to be annoyed by the fact that businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone as long as they do not discriminate due to race, sex, handicap or religion. Respect is a two way street.
OP did not put his rights ahead of the business; he offered to take his business elsewhere if the exercise of his rights were at odds with those of the business.
OP, I think you did just fine.
Apparently the person wasn't so nervous about guns that it kept her from confronting you.
Last edited by bc.cruiser; 09-04-2012 at 08:33 PM.
@bc.cruiser: Thanks , this is the second time I've had problems there (first was with a different assistant manager who left the company), but the store manager never had an issue with it. Yeah, I found it kind of odd that guns make you nervous, but your going to look me right in the face and ask me to cover it up. Am I missing something?
(1) A person exempted from the provisions of G.S. 14‑269;
(2) The owner or lessee of the premises or business establishment;
(3) A person participating in the event, if he is carrying a gun, rifle, or pistol with the permission of the owner, lessee, or person or organization sponsoring the event; and
(4) A person registered or hired as a security guard by the owner, lessee, or person or organization sponsoring the event.
I have to wonder what posture the OP was exhibiting since when approached by a store employee his response was is there a problem? My logical response would have been to decline their help if I did not need it instead of wondering if something was wrong with me being there.
Last edited by NC-Heel; 09-05-2012 at 07:37 PM.
§ 14‑269.3. Carrying weapons into assemblies and establishments where alcoholic beverages are sold and consumed. and I don't think really applies to any other situation generally. IMO. This sounds like VERY questionable legal advice to me...but IANAL.
If something is wrong for ONE person to do to another, it is still wrong if a BILLION people do it.