TheQ
Regular Member
I know knives aren't preempted -- that aside, are single edged balisong (butterfly knife) legal for possession/carry in Michigan?
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Knife Question -- Butterfly Knives
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stainless1911
Banned
I don't see where they are prohibited, as long as you don't CC it.
If the new 227 passes, they would be. Thats one reason it was written, to clear up questions like this.
If the new 227 passes, they would be. Thats one reason it was written, to clear up questions like this.
Raggs
Regular Member
they would be legal or illegal?
TheQ
Regular Member
I don't see how MCL 750.227 distinguishes between a spring assist folding knife and a balisong.
A spring assisted knife is widely accepted as legal to carry concealed or otherwise.
Maybe you could articulate your reasoning?
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zigziggityzoo
Campaign Veteran
http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-750-226a also relevant.
zigziggityzoo
Campaign Veteran
As best I can tell, butterfly knives/gravity knives are not illegal in MI if they have a single edge.
TheQ
Regular Member
Any person who shall sell or offer to sell, or any person who shall have in his possession any knife having the appearance of a pocket knife, the blade or blades of which can be opened by the flick of a button, pressure on a handle or other mechanical contrivance shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment in the county jail for not to exceed 1 year or by a fine of not to exceed $300.00, or both.
Doesn't seem to apply? No flick of a button or pressure on the handle.
I'm not sure whether this portion applies.
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TheQ
Regular Member
If that applied, spring assist would be illegal.
Ezerharden
Regular Member
If that happens, I know a few County Sheriffs, and a couple local LEO's that are going to jail sicn the carry SOG knives like I do.
:lol:
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Hevymetal
Regular Member
Ok, here goes. The way it was explained to me is:
Illegal:
ANY mechanically assisted knife.
1. Switchblade
2. DAOTF (Double Action Out The Front)
3. Spring Assisted knives of any kind
4. Double edged knifes
5. Projectile knives of ANY kind (spring or charged)
6. Tri-bladed stilettos and bayonets not attached to a rifle
There is an exemption for the above for LEOS, Firefighters, Paramedics and a one armed individual may carry mechanical knives (switchblades, DAOTF and spring assisted). Double edged, projectile and tri-bladed stilettos are ALWAYS illegal. In fact I believe projectile knives are Federally prohibited.
Legal:
1. Single edged knives of non-mechanical nature (butterfly, folding, fixed, gravity)
As long as your butterfly knife is single edged and below 3.5" in blade length you may carry it concealed. If the blade is in excess of 3.5" it must be openly displayed (belt clip or sheath)
Illegal:
ANY mechanically assisted knife.
1. Switchblade
2. DAOTF (Double Action Out The Front)
3. Spring Assisted knives of any kind
4. Double edged knifes
5. Projectile knives of ANY kind (spring or charged)
6. Tri-bladed stilettos and bayonets not attached to a rifle
There is an exemption for the above for LEOS, Firefighters, Paramedics and a one armed individual may carry mechanical knives (switchblades, DAOTF and spring assisted). Double edged, projectile and tri-bladed stilettos are ALWAYS illegal. In fact I believe projectile knives are Federally prohibited.
Legal:
1. Single edged knives of non-mechanical nature (butterfly, folding, fixed, gravity)
As long as your butterfly knife is single edged and below 3.5" in blade length you may carry it concealed. If the blade is in excess of 3.5" it must be openly displayed (belt clip or sheath)
stainless1911
Banned
legal. We put that in there to re instate that part of the RKBA.
(1) A person shall not carry a dagger, dirk, stiletto, a double-edged nonfolding stabbing instrument of any length, or any other dangerous weapon, except a hunting knife adapted and carried as such, concealed on or about his or her person, or whether concealed or otherwise in any vehicle operated or occupied by the person
I think the butterfly would be fine to carry, as the statute specifies concealment only.
Gort
Regular Member
Knowing that any type of knifes are not preempted, It depends on where your are at the time, So You can be Legal or Illegal
some one compiled the pdf list below, may not be up to date or correct.
http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USKnife.pdf
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Bronson
Regular Member
Let me guess, it was explained by a police officer. I say that because spring assisted knives are legal.
Bronson
cmdr_iceman71
Regular Member
So here is the question then: would a single-edged, folding knife, of less than 3 inches, with no mechanical contrivances fit the definition of a "dangerous weapon?"
stainless1911
Banned
Yes it could, as would a screwdriver, ice pick, or any other thing thought to be carried as a dangerous weapon. I think it would come down to intent.
TheQ
Regular Member
I am carrying a knife for utility, of course.
stainless1911
Banned
DrTodd
Michigan Moderator
this!!! +1
DrTodd
Michigan Moderator
Depends re intent. I know of someone charged for stabbing someone with a pencil pulled from his pocket... CCW charge; SUCCESSFULLY convicted.