smellslikemichigan
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rifles. (unless you previously registered it as a pistol)
Ok, but if the registration law is repealed, and all the records are destroyed, wouldn't all of them revert to "rifles?" And if that does happen, what's wrong with that?rifles. (unless you previously registered it as a pistol)
Ok, but if the registration law is repealed, and all the records are destroyed, wouldn't all of them revert to "rifles?" And if that does happen, what's wrong with that?
I was wondering about that. I asked that same question a while back. If there are no registered pistols, then how will law enforcement know if you have a pre-2013 "Michigan Pistol" or not?You can't carry them loaded in a car anymore.
michigan pistols will not go away unless explicitly stated by law. if they are still grandfathered, they are still grandfathered regardless of registrationI was wondering about that. I asked that same question a while back. If there are no registered pistols, then how will law enforcement know if you have a pre-2013 "Michigan Pistol" or not?
You are saying that Michigan Pistols will go away if registration is done away with. Makes sense.
if they are still grandfathered, they are still grandfathered regardless of registration
(2) A person may lawfully own, possess, carry, or transport as a pistol a firearm greater than 26 inches in length if all of the following conditions apply:
(a) The person registered the firearm as a pistol under section 2 or 2a before January 1, 2013.
(b) The person who registered the firearm as described in subdivision (a) has maintained registration of the firearm since January 1, 2013 without lapse.
(c) The person possesses a copy of the license or record issued to him or her under section 2 or 2a.
So (b) is impossible.
They haven't yet. Registration hasn't been repealed.......yet. If it isn't, then maintaining registration is not a problem, as long as you don't sell the firearm in question.It seems like there's some disagreement on whether registration can be maintained once the state destroys the registry.
It seems like there's some disagreement on whether registration can be maintained once the state destroys the registry.
No, (b) is just simply stating that if you still own the firearm (Mi Pistol) as of December 2025, for example, that you purchased and registered before 1-1-2013, without lapse in those 13 years (2012 - 2025), you can lawfully, possess, carry, etc. If you sell the firearm in January 2026 and buy it back in February 2026, 28.421 (amended) no longer applies. Hence, a lapse.
It seems like there's some disagreement on whether registration can be maintained once the state destroys the registry.
The whole idea of a "Michigan pistol" is premised on the idea of registration, because pistols are registered.
Without registration, how can you have a "Michigan pistol"?
Ultimately, this will be a question for the courts and the only way the question comes up is when someone is popped for carrying a "Michigan Pistol" concealed/in a car and gets charged with CCW (felony).
Who is volunteering to be the test case?
Either they go away, or anyone can just say that it was registered before. The latter is never gonna fly. This is a gun control bill.
yeah, eliminating the need to ask permission to buy a handgun and register it is a "gun control bill"..../ end sarcasm.
Sadly, many of these bills cut both ways. Some of us only think in terms of black and white though.
Sadly, many of these bills cut both ways. Some of us only think in terms of black and white though.