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    Cop accidentally kills clerk fleeing robbers

    Man, the NYPD is on a roll lately. Good thing these guns are in the hands of "trained professionals."

    Reynaldo Cuevas, 20, was shot once in the left shoulder when he bolted from his uncle's Bronx bodega and plowed into the officer, who was rushing to the scene with his gun drawn about 2 a.m. ET. "Mr. Cuevas ... ran full-speed into the officer," Commissioner Ray Kelly said, according to the New York Daily News. "The two became entangled, at which point, we believe, the officer accidentally discharged his weapon."
    http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/841445
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    Yup, "accidently". Because officers never make mistakes, they just have accidents. /sarcasm
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    "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it." - Judge Learned Hand

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    this does smell. 1. shot in the back, if they had ran into each other how was that possible?
    2. police had time to set up outside of the door, why weren't they aware of what was going on? 3. why was his finger on the trigger? of course this could be chalked up to stupidity

    i would love to see the video of this whole thing
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    If I lived in NYC I would be wearing a vest all time -- not for criminals -- but to protect me from the cops shooting me

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    If I lived in NYC I would be wearing a vest all time -- not for criminals -- but to protect me from the cops shooting me
    Great idea! Think we can convince clown Bloomberg to issue such to NY Citizens?

    Reminds me of a 3-Stooges episode, where they went to Mexico, and the local Citizens that were walking the streets had pillows tied to thier asses, to protect them from earthquakes.

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    Maybe it's a trend....

    http://www.startribune.com/local/eas...6.html?refer=y

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    What a choice to make...
    stay where you are & deal with common street criminals,
    or try to get away & maybe get shot by police.
    I like what's behind door #3 - self-defense.
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    Hers is the video.
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/b...2IyzvA1HP913XI

    So all three perps are going to be charged with murder right?
    Last edited by J1MB0B; 09-12-2012 at 02:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polynikes View Post
    Man, the NYPD is on a roll lately. Good thing these guns are in the hands of "trained professionals."



    http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/841445
    Ray Kelly, the Grand Inquisitor, must have watched a different video than the one I just watched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    If I lived in NYC I would be wearing a vest all time -- not for criminals -- but to protect me from the cops shooting me
    In which case you would still be wearing the vest to protect yourself from criminals.

    Just because NYPD or any government says they are "official", "legitimate", "duly empowered", etc., etc., does not make them less criminal.
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    Looks to me like complete negligence on part of the officer. Probably finger on the trigger and got startled as the guy ran out the door and slightly bumped into him. I didn't see any "barreling into" anybody in that video like they're trying to portray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polynikes View Post
    Man, the NYPD is on a roll lately. Good thing these guns are in the hands of "trained professionals."
    Reynaldo Cuevas, 20, was shot once in the left shoulder when he bolted from his uncle's Bronx bodega and plowed into the officer, who was rushing to the scene with his gun drawn about 2 a.m. ET. "Mr. Cuevas ... ran full-speed into the officer," Commissioner Ray Kelly said, according to the New York Daily News. "The two became entangled, at which point, we believe, the officer negligently discharged his weapon."
    http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/841445

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    Quote Originally Posted by benadethreid View Post
    I think, that would be negligence and malpractice. Though it was just an accident, the clerk needs justice.
    In the eyes of the courts the clerk did get justice. Death and enslavement are the only justice in the eyes of the government.

    I agree with your thoughts though. If he died because a doctor made a mistake then the clerk's family would be getting paid. If the clerk died because of a peasant citizen making a mistake that citizen would be in jail and would be forced to pay up.

    But cops get paid vacations and promotions for killing innocent citizens.
    Provision for free medical attendance and nursing, for clothing, for food, for housing, for the education of children, and a hundred other matters, might with equal propriety be proposed as tending to relieve the employee of mental strain and worry. --- These matters obviously lie outside the orbit of congressional power. (Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad)

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