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    parking garage mugging scenario

    BOSTON, police are investigating a parking garage shootout that occured late a few nights ago. Prominent Boston Attorney Denny Crane of the downtown law firm Crane, Poole, and Schmidt was returning to his car along with fellow attorney Jerry Espenson, when he claims a teenager pulled a gun and demanded his watch and wallet. Now recovered security footage from the garage shows the encounter. Boston police and investigating to determine if Mr. Crane's actions meet the criteria for self defense. Detective Rizzoli of the BPD has no comment on the shooting at this time

    OK so I made that all up based on this scene from the TV show Boston Legal. Assuming this were to occur in real life, is Denny Crane justified in his actions? on one hand the mugger was armed, however mr crane had surrendered his property, and his shooting to inflict pain on the mugger indicates he may not have believed his life was in danger.... your thoughts?

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    Was that a 1911 that Crane used?
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    Should have fired center mass.

    I understand the cool calm collected stance he took though. Really, you've got a gun pointed at you close range, getting 'excited' is not going to help anything, handing over wallet, and watch is a distraction tool that you're using to defend yourself. Once someone has a gun pointed at you doing what they tell you to is no guarantee of your safety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Was that a 1911 that Crane used?
    I dunno, I didn't see Denny's gun that well, mixed with the video quality it's hard to see.

    The mugger certainly looked like he was armed with a 1911 or Star looking gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1Man View Post
    Should have fired center mass.

    I understand the cool calm collected stance he took though. Really, you've got a gun pointed at you close range, getting 'excited' is not going to help anything, handing over wallet, and watch is a distraction tool that you're using to defend yourself. Once someone has a gun pointed at you doing what they tell you to is no guarantee of your safety.
    I would tend to agree, I mean plenty of armed robbers have shot their victims even after perfect compliance.

    That's what drives me nuts over a safety video i had to watch about how to handle armed robberies they "say, never use a weapon or fight back against the attacker, give him what he wants" well some robbers will kill you anyway, as it turns out, predatory felons don't like people who can pick them out of a police line up....

    I mean, obviously Will Shatner plays Denny Crane pretty well, I mean Crane is meant to be the stereotypical republican in the show, and he has all sorts of wierd mannerisms, so kneecapping and shooting his feet is just part of that character, certainly in real life I'd be looking at stopping the threat, not trying some cowboy crap in a dark garage. still If this really happened i'd say justified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    I dunno, I didn't see Denny's gun that well, mixed with the video quality it's hard to see.

    The mugger certainly looked like he was armed with a 1911 or Star looking gun.
    I've never seen that show so I have no idea who is who.

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    Right person wrong post quote.
    Last edited by Freedom1Man; 09-12-2012 at 11:19 PM.
    Provision for free medical attendance and nursing, for clothing, for food, for housing, for the education of children, and a hundred other matters, might with equal propriety be proposed as tending to relieve the employee of mental strain and worry. --- These matters obviously lie outside the orbit of congressional power. (Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad)

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