I've decided to vote for Romney!.......IF

Beretta92FSLady said:

We have been together for fifteen years, we may as well be married, we certainly have been acting like it for nearly half our lives. We are 34, and have been together since we were 18.

You should always look both ways before crossing the street LOL, it would be unfortunate if you were squashed flat by a bus.--or lucrative.

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Yeah, what's unfortunate for one is lucrative for another. Fifteen years, that's pretty good, there are a lot of couples that never get near that mark. Congrats!

hjmoosejaw said:

Yeah, what's unfortunate for one is lucrative for another. Fifteen years, that's pretty good, there are a lot of couples that never get near that mark. Congrats!

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Congratulations to you as well. We are both blessed.

I was hoping for a good fight this season, but Romney seems to not be delivering.

It kind of reminds me of that boxing match between Tyson and that one guy who ended up doing pizza commercials after he fought Tyson; it was in the early nineties, a white guy, lasted about 40 seconds in the ring with Tyson. I would have really loved to see Paul against Obama in the debates.

Some numbers on voters:

Still, many are low-income Americans. According to the August 2010 AP-GfK poll, a majority of Americans who make less than $30,000 a year are Democrats. But 27 percent identify as Republicans, and 15 percent say they're independents. About 57 percent say they will vote for Obama, while 38 percent back Romney. About 43 percent identify themselves as conservatives.http://seattletimes.com/html/politics/2019181472_apusromney.html

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President Obama's slip in 2008:

Obama faced a similar moment in the 2008 campaign, when he told donors that many Americans who are angry about their struggles "cling to their guns or religion."
Romney's running mate, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, made reference to that remark Monday at a campaign event in Des Moines, Iowa.
"I remember that one time when he was talking to a bunch of donors in San Francisco and he said people like us, people from the Midwest like to cling to their guns and religion," Ryan said.

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The issue that Romney will run into, as opposed to President Obama, is that the Clingers, Obama was referring to, well, they weren't voting for Obama anyhow, unlike the Independents that Romney was referring to, that he needs, to win the election.

Beretta92FSLady said:

The fact that you relate Moderation with Socialism and Fascism tells a lot about the unfortunate position your ilk have entrenched yourselves in; enjoy your trench, you are going to be there a long time.

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It's a moderate trench so... it's ok.

Beretta92FSLady said:

I have stated before that Americans are Moderate people,

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There's that word "moderate" again... what's the context? Moderate Americans? They're not "very" American and they're not "lightly" American... just "moderately" American. Me... I'm VERY American.

Beretta92FSLady said:

and although they vote for tea party types out of frustration, they will always come back to the middle;

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The middle of what?

Beretta92FSLady said:

Romney is a poor attempt at making Republicans appear Moderate, poor attempt; hell, Romney doesn't even know who Romney is. Voting Third Party is a waste of time. There are no viable Third Party candidates, unfortunately, yet!

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There are no viable 1st and 2nd party candidates either so what do we have to lose?

It kind of reminds me of that boxing match between Tyson and that one guy who ended up doing pizza commercials after he fought Tyson; it was in the early nineties, a white guy, lasted about 40 seconds in the ring with Tyson. I would have really loved to see Paul against Obama in the debates.

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I'm not sure, I don't recall the pizza commercials. But not to stray to far off track here, just a quick question. Both being in their primes, who would you pick to win, Tyson or Ali?

hjmoosejaw said:

I'm not sure, I don't recall the pizza commercials. But not to stray to far off track here, just a quick question. Both being in their primes, who would you pick to win, Tyson or Ali?

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Tyson is a violent man, period...Ali would take him.

Romney On Foreign Policy...

Romney isn't too savvy, politically:

[video=youtube_share;ukhFBJgrZxM]http://youtu.be/ukhFBJgrZxM[/video]

Romney ought to consider that as President, he is going to be dealing with both sides of the Israel/Palestine equation. I'm positive he has another excuse.

I wonder what else is bubbling to the surface for him. Talk about throwing an election, Republicans.

georg jetson said:

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There's that word "moderate" again... what's the context? Moderate Americans? They're not "very" American and they're not "lightly" American... just "moderately" American. Me... I'm VERY American.

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Moderate, politically. But I'm sure you already knew what I was referring to.

There are no viable 1st and 2nd party candidates either so what do we have to lose?

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Then vote Third Party.

Beretta92FSLady said:

Romney isn't too savvy, politically:

[video=youtube_share;ukhFBJgrZxM]http://youtu.be/ukhFBJgrZxM[/video]

Romney ought to consider that as President, he is going to be dealing with both sides of the Israel/Palestine equation. I'm positive he has another excuse.

I wonder what else is bubbling to the surface for him. Talk about throwing an election, Republicans.

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He was talking about the new RISK game lol ....



But I like this guy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM83ObemYsI

davidmcbeth said:

He was talking about the new RISK game lol ....



But I like this guy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM83ObemYsI

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"Let your vote say so," how Democratic.

Gee, I wonder who is going to win, hmm, let me think about it here for a moment: Romney, 47% of Americans are self-subscribed Victims, or Obama...Here you go:

[video=youtube;0fNUQQBE8iE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fNUQQBE8iE&feature=player_embedded[/video]

The wonderful thing about Romney's campaign is that now, Mormons can perform their Baptism for the Dead, on it.

President Obama is doing what he ought to do, sit back, and let Romney's mouth sink his own ship, and it's smooth sailing.

In response, Romney digs-up fourteen years into the past, and throws audio footage of Obama at the wall, to see if it will stick:

[video=youtube_share;ge3aGJfDSg4]http://youtu.be/ge3aGJfDSg4[/video]



President Obama believes in a degree of Redistribution, that's not new news. Maybe it's news to Romney, and his campaign.

Romney's statement is a fact. Seems the only people who are upset are the Obama freeloaders. Nice diversion that will backfire and then we will be back to fiasco in the Middle East that Obooboo created. It is very sad that half the population does not pay income tax, and the burden is put on those few that do.

There is another thing to consider. Generally a MUCH smaller percentage of the "free loading" class vote than tax payers.

Until Romney releases his tax returns, I'm going to go with the idea that Romney is one of those that didn't pay any taxes.

Beretta92FSLady said:

The wonderful thing about Romney's campaign is that now, Mormons can perform their Baptism for the Dead, on it.

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One group, don't know if its Romney's group, baptized Hitler. And the prophecy was fulfilled...

WalkingWolf said:

Romney's statement is a fact. Seems the only people who are upset are the Obama freeloaders. Nice diversion that will backfire and then we will be back to fiasco in the Middle East that Obooboo created. It is very sad that half the population does not pay income tax, and the burden is put on those few that do.

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Individuals on Social Security are freeloaders?--that's part of the 47% he is speaking about, the elderly, which, last I checked, vote Republican. Romney keeps playing the election this way, Obama will glide into office.

Disabled veterans are freeloaders too. Is there a group left that Romney hasn't dissed?

beebobby said:

Disabled veterans are freeloaders too. Is there a group left that Romney hasn't dissed?

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There are plenty of other ways people pay taxes. Romney is standing by his statements, this election might be over.

Basically, the author of the quote below, states that most of the 47% paid into the system and are now receiving benefits, then they back away and stand behind what Romney stated.

We must remember, however, that a great many of those who receive checks from the government have earned them. Some by their taxes over the years to Social Security and Medicare and others by paying a deeper price by service to their country.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/18/mitt-romney-gets-it-right/#ixzz26wLQ32lr
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But what did Romney state about the 47% (Vets, Disabled, Elderly)?:

There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.

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The elderly believe they are Victims? Vets believe they are victims? Disabled people believe they are victims? Not all of the 47% who collect moneys from the State are Democrats, let's break it down like a fraction:

"Most of the 10 poorest states in the country are Republican.
Mississippi is the poorest... followed by Arkansas, Tennessee, West Virginia, Louisiana, Montana, South Carolina, Kentucky, Alabama and North Carolina." http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2...most-of-the-10-poorest-states-are-republican/

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Romney, I suppose the elderly are a bunch of freeloaders, since, they make-up a portion of that 47% you don't care much about:

To start, the obvious conclusion from the breakdown of ages is that most Republican voters are quite old. The party will probably lose over a third of its members to old age in the next 20 years and has only tiny base of younger voters to replace them.

Age Range

Graph

Percent

18-27

6%

28-37

14%

38-47

15%

48-57

24%

58+

37%

http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/demographic-trends-in-the-republican-party/

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The households in question consist primarily of the retired, the poor and low-income families with children, according to nonpartisan analysts. Moreover, they do pay taxes, if not income taxes: Just 8 percent of households do not pay payroll or federal income taxes, discounting the elderly....

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For a long time, cutting taxes for the poor was a major emphasis of the Republican Party. One reason that many poor people no longer pay federal income taxes is that they qualify for credits such as the earned-income tax credit, which has its roots in conservative thinking and has long been supported by members of both parties as a way to help the poor without increasing welfare payments or raising the minimum wage. The credit was added to the tax code when Gerald Ford was president, and was expanded by Republicans and Democrats, including President Ronald Reagan, who called it “one of the best anti-poverty programs this country has ever seen” in 1986.
President George W. Bush, for his part, doubled the child tax credit, and his tax cuts erased the federal income tax liability for millions of households...


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/u...ers-conflicts-with-longtime-gop-stand.html?hp

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And then we have:

But President Obama has overtaken Mr. Romney on who would do a better job handling the economy, according to a new Quinnipiac University/New York Times/CBS News poll of likely Wisconsin voters. The poll also found that Mr. Obama has a 17-point edge over Mr. Romney when voters are asked if a candidate cares about their needs and problems.
As the president makes his first campaign visit of the year to Wisconsin on Saturday, the poll found that Mr. Obama was the choice of 51 percent to 45 percent for Mr. Romney among likely voters. The six-point lead, which includes those who said they were leaning in one direction or another, marks a slight shift in Mr. Obama’s direction since Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin joined the Republican ticket last month. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/u...r-romney-in-wisconsin-poll-shows.html?_r=1&hp

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Romney has a major issue with connecting to voters. Then he shoots his mouth off regarding what he views as loafers. I am enjoying watching Right-Wingers pack-pedal from Romney and throwing him under the bus as the problem, and not Republican policies. As unpleasant as President Obama is purported to be, Republicans put-up an even more unpleasant alternative.

I think Romney sees the writing on the wall, and he knows that at this point, all that's left is to throw all the marbles in; he is going to lose all his marbles, and Republicans as a whole are going to pay the price. Enjoy your hard-line, Republicans.

http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2019193783_notax19.html

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I wonder how many Republicans, on this forum, pay no Federal Taxes because they fall under the line. I wonder how many Republicans are considered elderly, vet, disabled, or are under-employed?--so many questions, so few answers. I dare someone to come forward and justify why they are entitled to Government assistance.

Almost forgot:

There's only one mystery left regarding : Who filmed it? From what we've heard from James Carter IV, Mother Jones, and the guy who owns that lavish pad where it all went down, here's our best guess: It was the bartender, with the iPhone, at the hedge fund manager's wet bar. "Before Mitt Romney spoke at the fundraiser, guests were reminded that Mitt Romney's comments were off the record. Those present were asked not to repeat his remarks to the press," , who also reports that Marc Leder, the wealthy hedgefund manager who owns the house where the "47 percent" tape was born, has apologized to Romney and "believes that the video was made by someone who was hired to work the party." Hmmm ... blaming it on the help. http://news.yahoo.com/filmed-romneys-47-video-134245727.html

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I wonder: Why were Romney's comments stated to be "off the record?" I mean, he stands by them, and he sees no issue with them. I think Romney ought to make videos of his statements, and at the end state: I am Mitt Romney, and I support this message. Really, he should run on it, since it's the truth, right.