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    Hi Point 40 cal carbine ammo question

    OK, I am going to purchase the carbine with forward grip, laser light and red dot scope. Buying Black Hills JHP 165 grain for defense and Federal FMJ 165 grain or 180 grain for setting up the scope and practicing.

    For those who don't know, this is a carbine that shoots a handgun 40 cal bullet. What I don't know is, are semi and revolver 40 cal bullets the same ? I own a S&W 38 Special+P Model 447.

    Thanks ahead for the informative replies as well as the occasional, yes, duh replies. (LOL)


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    PS: Also if anyone wants to "volunteer" the info of how I go about adjusting the rear sights to zero it in I'd appreciate that info also as I have never owned a rifle, but did go hunting with my Dad's lever action 30-06.
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    AFAIK .40 S&W is the "only" 40 cal handgun ammo that is available.
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    It's hard to say for sure. Not all ammo is named correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAVYBLUE View Post
    OK, I am going to purchase the carbine with forward grip, laser light and red dot scope. Buying Black Hills JHP 165 grain for defense and Federal FMJ 165 grain or 180 grain for setting up the scope and practicing.

    For those who don't know, this is a carbine that shoots a handgun 40 cal bullet. What I don't know is, are semi and revolver 40 cal bullets the same ? I own a S&W 38 Special+P Model 447.

    Thanks ahead for the informative replies as well as the occasional, yes, duh replies. (LOL)


    NAVYBLUE

    PS: Also if anyone wants to "volunteer" the info of how I go about adjusting the rear sights to zero it in I'd appreciate that info also as I have never owned a rifle, but did go hunting with my Dad's lever action 30-06.
    The rear sight has small screws on it to adjust elevation and windage. However, try it straight out the box, you'll probably find it's damn near close enough already. One problem I found with the 9mm version is if I use a full magazine the first round will sometimes refuse to feed, so I've been just loading 9 instead of 10 rounds and that seems to help

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAVYBLUE View Post
    OK, I am going to purchase the carbine with forward grip, laser light and red dot scope. Buying Black Hills JHP 165 grain for defense and Federal FMJ 165 grain or 180 grain for setting up the scope and practicing.

    For those who don't know, this is a carbine that shoots a handgun 40 cal bullet. What I don't know is, are semi and revolver 40 cal bullets the same ? I own a S&W 38 Special+P Model 447.

    Thanks ahead for the informative replies as well as the occasional, yes, duh replies. (LOL)


    NAVYBLUE

    PS: Also if anyone wants to "volunteer" the info of how I go about adjusting the rear sights to zero it in I'd appreciate that info also as I have never owned a rifle, but did go hunting with my Dad's lever action 30-06.
    There are only two .40 cal handgun rounds that I know of and both are designed for a semi auto. The .40 S&W and it's big brother the 10mm mag. The .38 special takes a .357 diameter bullet, the same as its big bro the .357 mag. The Hipoint carbine takes the .40 S&W. I've been thinking about getting one my own self...

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    So soon we forget the venerable .38-40?! This old ".38" is actually a .40 caliber...
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    [QUOTE=MAC702;1825716]So soon we forget the venerable .38-40?! This old ".38" is actually a .40 caliber...[/QUOT

    Another old black powder cartridge. Yep, right you are. According to my Speer reloading manual, this is a .401 diameter bullet. It did not occur to me as was the practice in those days, 1870's, I would have thought it was a .38 cal bullet pushed by 40 grn of black powder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouser View Post
    The rear sight has small screws on it to adjust elevation and windage. However, try it straight out the box, you'll probably find it's damn near close enough already. One problem I found with the 9mm version is if I use a full magazine the first round will sometimes refuse to feed, so I've been just loading 9 instead of 10 rounds and that seems to help
    Thanks all for your replies. That research I've done sort of indicates that the FMJ/JHP ammo is fairly accurate out to 50 yards using standard circular targets normally hitting in the 8-10 rings. At 100 yards, the accuracy drops of dramatically because it doesn't have the velocity of the "standard" length hunting rifle. It appears that at hundred yards you can put FMJ bullets in the B27 targets in the 7-9 circle, but the JHP have less velocity at 100 yards and less accuracy decrease.

    Scoiuser, I read some reviews on the Hi-Point 10 round magazines and they recommend that after you load all (10) bullets in the mag, to strike(gently) the vertical side of the mag that faces to the rear of the rifle when inserted into the rifle onto a flat wooden or metal surface to "seat" the rear of the bullet fully back against the rear vertical section of the mag. It is "supposed" to allow the spring to then "equallaterally" push all (10) bullets up the magazine.


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    with the carbine you should easily get out to about a 150 yards with a good degree of accuracy. you dolose some energy out that far. but not that much of a problem
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