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    New to group

    Hi everyone i just turned 21 in Augest and have been carrying for a little over 2 weeks now

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    Re: New to group

    Welcome to OCDO if you havnt already you should read the Washington gun right pamphlet and apply for your CPL.

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    Thumbs up Welcome

    Welcome to the group and congrats on making it to 21. I am glad to hear you carry. There is lots of info in this group.

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    Good Deal, Brad.
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    I do indeed have my CPL i have been actually browseing this group off and on for the past year or so i been taking in alot of info already lol i do have one question for now though i asked around and everyone that i talked to about it hasnt gave me a straight answer i have a friend who is a felon it was a non violent crime that he did and i know as him being a felon he cant have a firearm but whenever im carrying is it even legal for him to be around me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad98801 View Post
    I do indeed have my CPL i have been actually browseing this group off and on for the past year or so i been taking in alot of info already lol i do have one question for now though i asked around and everyone that i talked to about it hasnt gave me a straight answer i have a friend who is a felon it was a non violent crime that he did and i know as him being a felon he cant have a firearm but whenever im carrying is it even legal for him to be around me?
    The law prohibits his possession of firearms.
    As long has he does not have possession or access to it, being in your possession and on your person or secured when he is around and not on your person then there should be no issue.
    I believe it was in just the last year or two in Puget Sound where an felon was not in possession of but the gun was his wife's and was locked in a safe which he had access to and was convicted as a felon in possession of a firearm.

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.040

    RCW 9.41.040
    Unlawful possession of firearms — ownership, possession by certain persons — restoration of right to possess — penalties.



    (1)(a) A person, whether an adult or juvenile, is guilty of the crime of unlawful possession of a firearm in the first degree, if the person owns, has in his or her possession, or has in his or her control any firearm after having previously been convicted or found not guilty by reason of insanity in this state or elsewhere of any serious offense as defined in this chapter.

    (b) Unlawful possession of a firearm in the first degree is a class B felony punishable according to chapter 9A.20 RCW.

    (2)(a) A person, whether an adult or juvenile, is guilty of the crime of unlawful possession of a firearm in the second degree, if the person does not qualify under subsection (1) of this section for the crime of unlawful possession of a firearm in the first degree and the person owns, has in his or her possession, or has in his or her control any firearm:

    (i) After having previously been convicted or found not guilty by reason of insanity in this state or elsewhere of any felony not specifically listed as prohibiting firearm possession under subsection (1) of this section, or any of the following crimes when committed by one family or household member against another, committed on or after July 1, 1993: Assault in the fourth degree, coercion, stalking, reckless endangerment, criminal trespass in the first degree, or violation of the provisions of a protection order or no-contact order restraining the person or excluding the person from a residence (RCW 26.50.060, 26.50.070, 26.50.130, or 10.99.040);

    (ii) After having previously been involuntarily committed for mental health treatment under RCW 71.05.240, 71.05.320, 71.34.740, 71.34.750, chapter 10.77 RCW, or equivalent statutes of another jurisdiction, unless his or her right to possess a firearm has been restored as provided in RCW 9.41.047;

    (iii) If the person is under eighteen years of age, except as provided in RCW 9.41.042; and/or

    (iv) If the person is free on bond or personal recognizance pending trial, appeal, or sentencing for a serious offense as defined in RCW 9.41.010.

    (b) Unlawful possession of a firearm in the second degree is a class C felony punishable according to chapter 9A.20 RCW.

    (3) Notwithstanding RCW 9.41.047 or any other provisions of law, as used in this chapter, a person has been "convicted", whether in an adult court or adjudicated in a juvenile court, at such time as a plea of guilty has been accepted, or a verdict of guilty has been filed, notwithstanding the pendency of any future proceedings including but not limited to sentencing or disposition, post-trial or post-factfinding motions, and appeals. Conviction includes a dismissal entered after a period of probation, suspension or deferral of sentence, and also includes equivalent dispositions by courts in jurisdictions other than Washington state. A person shall not be precluded from possession of a firearm if the conviction has been the subject of a pardon, annulment, certificate of rehabilitation, or other equivalent procedure based on a finding of the rehabilitation of the person convicted or the conviction or disposition has been the subject of a pardon, annulment, or other equivalent procedure based on a finding of innocence. Where no record of the court's disposition of the charges can be found, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that the person was not convicted of the charge.

    (4)(a) Notwithstanding subsection (1) or (2) of this section, a person convicted or found not guilty by reason of insanity of an offense prohibiting the possession of a firearm under this section other than murder, manslaughter, robbery, rape, indecent liberties, arson, assault, kidnapping, extortion, burglary, or violations with respect to controlled substances under RCW 69.50.401 and 69.50.410, who received a probationary sentence under RCW 9.95.200, and who received a dismissal of the charge under RCW 9.95.240, shall not be precluded from possession of a firearm as a result of the conviction or finding of not guilty by reason of insanity. Notwithstanding any other provisions of this section, if a person is prohibited from possession of a firearm under subsection (1) or (2) of this section and has not previously been convicted or found not guilty by reason of insanity of a sex offense prohibiting firearm ownership under subsection (1) or (2) of this section and/or any felony defined under any law as a class A felony or with a maximum sentence of at least twenty years, or both, the individual may petition a court of record to have his or her right to possess a firearm restored:

    (i) Under RCW 9.41.047; and/or

    (ii)(A) If the conviction or finding of not guilty by reason of insanity was for a felony offense, after five or more consecutive years in the community without being convicted or found not guilty by reason of insanity or currently charged with any felony, gross misdemeanor, or misdemeanor crimes, if the individual has no prior felony convictions that prohibit the possession of a firearm counted as part of the offender score under RCW 9.94A.525; or

    (B) If the conviction or finding of not guilty by reason of insanity was for a nonfelony offense, after three or more consecutive years in the community without being convicted or found not guilty by reason of insanity or currently charged with any felony, gross misdemeanor, or misdemeanor crimes, if the individual has no prior felony convictions that prohibit the possession of a firearm counted as part of the offender score under RCW 9.94A.525 and the individual has completed all conditions of the sentence.

    (b) An individual may petition a court of record to have his or her right to possess a firearm restored under (a) of this subsection (4) only at:

    (i) The court of record that ordered the petitioner's prohibition on possession of a firearm; or

    (ii) The superior court in the county in which the petitioner resides.

    (5) In addition to any other penalty provided for by law, if a person under the age of eighteen years is found by a court to have possessed a firearm in a vehicle in violation of subsection (1) or (2) of this section or to have committed an offense while armed with a firearm during which offense a motor vehicle served an integral function, the court shall notify the department of licensing within twenty-four hours and the person's privilege to drive shall be revoked under RCW 46.20.265.

    (6) Nothing in chapter 129, Laws of 1995 shall ever be construed or interpreted as preventing an offender from being charged and subsequently convicted for the separate felony crimes of theft of a firearm or possession of a stolen firearm, or both, in addition to being charged and subsequently convicted under this section for unlawful possession of a firearm in the first or second degree. Notwithstanding any other law, if the offender is convicted under this section for unlawful possession of a firearm in the first or second degree and for the felony crimes of theft of a firearm or possession of a stolen firearm, or both, then the offender shall serve consecutive sentences for each of the felony crimes of conviction listed in this subsection.

    (7) Each firearm unlawfully possessed under this section shall be a separate offense.
    Last edited by BigDave; 09-18-2012 at 12:00 AM.
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    Welcome Brad!
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    Hi Brad .... welcome to the forum ...

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    Read, and have your friend read RCW 9.41.045 and 9.41.047 and see if he cannot have his rights restored. This link is to Spokane Co's forms, but Chelan Co should have similar...http://www.spokanecounty.org/superio...nt.aspx?c=1105

    In the meantime, you may carry in his presence, but you may not allow him to handle your weapon.

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