mspgunner
Regular Member
Consider the options, vote smart:
I think the point is choose the lesser of 2 evils. Obama has already stated that he don't believe citizens should own guns. Romney has some left views when it comes to gun control, but he has Ryan as his running mate to keep him in check. Romney has no intentions of outright trying to erase the 2nd amendment, Obama does. Altho both are bad choices, voting for someone other than Romney is just throwing a vote away and leaving Obama with an extra vote that does not get cancelled out. Thats the point.
I'm sorry, but I'm not a one issue voter, so I will not get sucked into this two party trap that we've been in for about a century now. I'll be voting for who's best for the country on as many issues as possible-not just gun rights.
So who are then voting for?
If third party, how do think they will be able to influence, make the change you want to see? If King Obama, why is the better choice over Romney? Saying they are both equal is a cop out and is not true and very disingenuous.
In advance.....thanks for your information.
I'm still undecided, but I can tell you it won't be Nobama or Wrongney. And you're right, they're not equal. Obama is bad for some things (fiscal responsibility, civil liberties), Romney is bad on others (other civil liberties, energy policy). Who's worse? It doesn't matter. If I don't like their policies, I'm not voting for them. It's pretty simple.
I think the point is choose the lesser of 2 evils. Obama has already stated that he don't believe citizens should own guns. Romney has some left views when it comes to gun control, but he has Ryan as his running mate to keep him in check. Romney has no intentions of outright trying to erase the 2nd amendment, Obama does. Altho both are bad choices, voting for someone other than Romney is just throwing a vote away and leaving Obama with an extra vote that does not get cancelled out. Thats the point.
So in other words, your just wasting your vote .....
So in other words, your just wasting your vote .....
So in other words, your just wasting your vote .....
Yes. See the 22nd Amendment.Write in "George Bush" ... that'll send a message ...
Would that be a waste of a vote?
Well, that is a nice warm, fuzzy feeling...but getting past that is the hard part. There is no 3rd party candidate out there that has any chance of winning the WH. So this brings me to my question, why do people vote because of the selfish warm/fuzzy feeling instead of the broader view?
I know several who like to state they are voting for the candidate (presidential) that best represents there beliefs and politics....usually 3rd party.
Well, that is a nice warm, fuzzy feeling...but getting past that is the hard part. There is no 3rd party candidate out there that has any chance of winning the WH. So this brings me to my question, why do people vote because of the selfish warm/fuzzy feeling instead of the broader view?
I will agree, neither are the best choice, but the reality is, that is all we have...so it becomes the lessor of two evils. Oh, by the way, this is nothing new...it's happened in politics for many years, locally to federal.
With a higher propensity for the next POTUS to appoint Supreme Court Justices; I'll take my chances with Romney rather than with King Obama. In addition, I believe Romney (and a repub congress) has a better chance to repeal/reduce Obamacare's devastating economical burden on our economy.
That's my $.02.
I agree. There is no third party candidate out there that has any chance of winning the WH.
As far as voting for a "selfish warm/fuzzy feeling" rather than your broader view.....
Since when did how I vote become your perogative? Since when did my individual vote have to adhere to your definition, or be considered wrong? It's mine. Casting it how I desire is considered "selfish" if it doesn't fit your view of the current state of politics? Here are some options I have with MY vote:
1) I can simply not vote, whatsoever.
2) I can vote for Obama.
3) I can vote for Romney
4) I can vote for a third party.
5) I can write in the person I'm going to vote for.
Hmmmmm. Glad to know you've narrowed my choices down to #3.....or being "selfish" with something that belongs to me: My vote. Simply for not casting it in the same manner, and for the exact reason you choose to cast yours.
Do I feel good about it? Nope. You're right. The person I am going to vote for will not win. Am I aware of the consequences? Yes. There is a lot riding on the next president's shoulders. Supreme Court picks are one of them.
But I'm not going to sacrifice my principles and vote for someone I never supported simply because he isn't the person I don't want to win.
I vote FOR the person I want. That's what I do. That's how I cast my vote.
If I wanted a warm/fuzzy feeling, I'd W***E myself out and vote for Romney simply because of the impending DOOM forcast if he is defeated.
But I'm not a W***E. Voting for my candidate fails to give me a warm/fuzzy feeling you say it does. So be it. Maybe the Republican party should have nominated him if they wanted me to vote for their candidate. After all, I vote for candidates because of their values, the opinions they hold, how they govern and legislate, the kind of personality they have, and a myriad other reasons.
I do NOT vote for candidates simply because they're NOT the crap we're accustomed to. I do NOT vote for candidates because they're the "lesser of two evils". I do NOT follow the rest of the lemmings taking us over the cliff's edge and vote for their reasons.
I vote for my own reasons, and for my own candidates. If everyone else did so, maybe this country would start heading in the right direction.
Until then, keep enjoying the fresh turds you keep electing for for everyone else's reasons.
You are .I'll be voting for the candidate I believe will be the best choice to lead our country.
Other folks will be voting for "the lesser of two evils".....a candidate they don't even like....... in order to reinforce the two party system so that "the other side" doesn't maintain control of the presidency.
Even though my candidate has absolutely no chance of winning.....
.....which one of us is really WASTING their vote?
I hardly think that the Mittster's "record" in MASSACHUSETTS is a harbinger of things to come for the other 56 states if he is elected president.You guys make me laugh. You'd vote for nancy pelosi if she changed her blue undies for red and you put a R an in front of her name.
Just think about what your going to do, vote for a man who signed a permanent AWB into law, raised fees for gun owners by 400% and invented Obamacare. Not to mention did nothing for the economy of his state.
That's who you will inflict on the American people? Ugh.
A vote for Obamney is damn near traitorous.