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    Thinking of moving from NY to CT but still need my NY permit. Advise

    I am thinking of moving from NY to CT. I currently have a CC for employment.
    I understand that NY does not issue permits to non-residents but, is there a permit I can apply for seeing as my business is located in NY?
    LEOs, attorneys, and firearm law experts please advise.

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    You must be a resident.

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    Yes , If you have a business in New York, you can have a permit.


    http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/newyork.pdf

    NY Penal Code 400
    3. Applications. (a) Applications shall be made and renewed, in the case of a license to carry or possess a pistol or revolver, to the licensing officer in the city or county, as the case may be, where the applicant resides, is principally employed or has his principal place of business as merchant or storekeeper; and, in the case of a license as gunsmith or dealer in firearms, to the licensing officer where such place of business is located.

    Note: It looks like if you work or have a business in NY you can apply for a Permit/License to Carry. If you apply you would follow the same procedures as a resident. (See Resident Permit Section)
    I am not a lawyer, I study the history of gun control laws.

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    Three lawsuits have been filed to resolve your issue.

    First is Osterweil v. Bartlett ,a case against a licensing authority for refusing to issue to a part-time resident of NY

    Second is Kachalsky v. Cacace, a case which is attempting to get the New York concealed carry law (since there's been no open carry of handguns for regular civilians out in the public areas since 1963) to be no prior restraint (no discretion)

    Third is Peterson v. Martinez, a case against the refusal of state to issue non-resident licenses.

    They are not resolved yet.

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    Move your business and family to Pennsylvania. There's no firearms registration, and a license to carry will only cost you $20.00 for five years.

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    Everyone can say what they want...but in NY it is strictly up to the Judge in the county that issued the permit in the first place.

    Yes everyone, it is true, you must be a resident to be issued a permit in the first place, however, most of the permits in NY are "lifetime" (mine was issued in 1967, and yes I still have it even though I have not live in NY since 1968 PL 400.00(2)(f) it is in my firesafe)

    You said you have an "employment" permit (400.00(2)(c)?) I would assume, if the "employment" remains the same, the judge will not have a problem with you keeping it. What you need to do is, after you move, ask the judge that issued the permit...it is strictly up to him....no kidding. They might just change you address and give it back. It does happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    You must be a resident.
    Post the statute.

    Many counties will issue if you have a business address within their jurisdiction, even NYC.
    "Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by emsjeep View Post

    Many counties will issue if you have a business address within their jurisdiction, even NYC.
    post the statue

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    post the statue
    Penal Code 400.00

    Section 3

    3. Applications. (a) Applications shall be made and renewed, in the
    case of a license to carry or possess a pistol or revolver, to the
    licensing officer in the city or county, as the case may be, where the
    applicant resides, is principally employed or has his principal place of
    business as merchant or storekeeper

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jared View Post
    Penal Code 400.00

    Section 3

    3. Applications. (a) Applications shall be made and renewed, in the
    case of a license to carry or possess a pistol or revolver, to the
    licensing officer in the city or county, as the case may be, where the
    applicant resides, is principally employed or has his principal place of
    business as merchant or storekeeper

    "where the applicant resides" That tidbit right there is a concern for me.
    I dont want to move then have the license revoked bc I do need to carry in NYS for my business.

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    The OP should also be concerned with a new bill that is going to be puked out of the illegally acting legislative committee today ... if he does not have residency upon the active date of the expected law then this may throw another monkey wrench into his thoughts..

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    Ask your Sheriff

    Quote Originally Posted by camaroguy13 View Post
    I am thinking of moving from NY to CT. I currently have a CC for employment.
    I understand that NY does not issue permits to non-residents but, is there a permit I can apply for seeing as my business is located in NY?
    LEOs, attorneys, and firearm law experts please advise.
    I know you posted this some time ago, but there is a simple answer.

    Do you remember when Rockingham and Westchester Counties had the addresses of the pistol permit holders released to the newspaper? If you looked at them you would have seen quite a few addresses from CT, NJ, PA and there were even a couple from NC and VA.

    I asked our family friend who just happend to retire as a Sheriff Deputy and now runs the pistol permit program about non residents getting NYS pistol permits. Those who own businesses in NY can get a non resident permit as well as those people who work in NY but live in another state.

    I am originally from Chemung county, which borders PA, and there are quite a few folks who live in PA, but work in NY. They can apply for a NYS pistol permit.

    Ask your sheriff.

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    Your permit is no good

    Quote Originally Posted by hermannr View Post
    Everyone can say what they want...but in NY it is strictly up to the Judge in the county that issued the permit in the first place.

    Yes everyone, it is true, you must be a resident to be issued a permit in the first place, however, most of the permits in NY are "lifetime" (mine was issued in 1967, and yes I still have it even though I have not live in NY since 1968 PL 400.00(2)(f) it is in my firesafe)

    You said you have an "employment" permit (400.00(2)(c)?) I would assume, if the "employment" remains the same, the judge will not have a problem with you keeping it. What you need to do is, after you move, ask the judge that issued the permit...it is strictly up to him....no kidding. They might just change you address and give it back. It does happen.
    I hate to give you the bad news, but your New York permit isn't valid in NY. Yes, they were "lifetime" permits, but It stopped being valid the minute you moved outside the state and set up residency in another state. It is still valid if you WORK in NY though.

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