show CHP as ID to vote this year?

peter nap said:

Am I the only one that's uncomfortable with all the ID Bull$hit?

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riverrat10k said:

I have used my CHP the last two elections. Showed nothing else. I was questioned by the woman checking thr rolls, but approved by the supervisor. The law says government issued ID. Mike, was this verbage changed?
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The old law had a few forms of ID allowed, not gov ID generally, and not CHP. New law added some IDs, like CHPs, but also changed presumption of affirmation of identity to that which gets no vote unless you bring in ID later.

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Wolf_shadow said:

My bank statement shows the wifes name too! How they gonna know which I is?

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Mike said:

riverrat10k said:

I have used my CHP the last two elections. Showed nothing else. I was questioned by the woman checking thr rolls, but approved by the supervisor. The law says government issued ID. Mike, was this verbage changed?
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The old law had a few forms of ID allowed, not gov ID generally, and not CHP. New law added some IDs, like CHPs, but also changed presumption of affirmation of identity to that which gets no vote unless you bring in ID later.

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MY understanding, no cite, was the old law said "government issued ID". I, and many, considered the CHP a government issued ID. As I stated, I was allowed to vote showing only the CHP for the last 4 years.

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Old Virginia Joe said:

I wonder if we should do this in November at the polling places: Instead of showing a voter registration card, or drivers license, or power bill, or whatever else forms of identification is acceptable to vote here in Virginia, I want to present ONLY my CHP, and be allowed to vote, as is permitted now, by what I understand. We could wear our voice recorders and maybe get some good recordings of any possible resistance to be allowed to vote. If the bums, illegals, and "occupy" protestors can be allowed to vote with no picture ID, then by golly, so should I, a working, tax-paying, land-owning, military veteran! We should ALL do this across OCDO Virginia! Poll workers will be surprised just how many of us there are, and that we VOTE. Word will get around, believe me. What do you think? Are you with me? (Sorry PN, for PFP. I still OC. Let's all cooperate for the benefit of the 2A ).

((Paradoxical Quote of The Day From Ben Stein:

"Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen."

Now add this, "Many of those who refuse, or are unable, to prove they are citizens will receive free insurance paid for by those who are forced to buy insurance because they are citizens."

Think about it when you vote in November ! ))

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peter nap said:

Am I the only one that's uncomfortable with all the ID Bull$hit?

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va_tazdad said:

But you might recall after the primary when I was not allowed to open or concealed carry and challenged it to the VBOE idiots. They claimed they disallowed firearms because of an alleged incident where a woman saw a gun, OMG !!!!

The "legal department" of the VBOE claimed they had the authority to ban firearms because it might intimidate someone.

Sounds like they overstepped their authority to me.

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peter nap said:

Yep, I recall that and if you remember...I was working on getting an AG opinion until CERTAIN PEOPLE called other legislators and interfered....also

VCDL put out an alert that flatly stated It was entirely legal to carry in the polls. I have no idea how they determined that, but I'll be more than willing to video anyone that wants to carry in a Chesterfield Polling place.

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peter nap said:

Yep, I recall that and if you remember...I was working on getting an AG opinion until CERTAIN PEOPLE called other legislators and interfered....also

VCDL put out an alert that flatly stated It was entirely legal to carry in the polls. I have no idea how they determined that, but I'll be more than willing to video anyone that wants to carry in a Chesterfield Polling place.

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thebigsd said:

Well that's what I get for moving out of state...can you provide a link to the new law?

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va_tazdad said:

I recall Peter, but was unable to find the thread. The VBOE says no. They advised over the phone anyone carrying will be advised to go put it in your car and will not be allowed to vote until you comply. They claim refusal can be considered disorderly conduct.

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2a4all said:

Could be true.

Code of VA 24.2-607. Prohibited conduct; intimidation of voters; disturbance of election; how prevented; penalties.
A. It shall be unlawful for any person to hinder, intimidate, or interfere with any qualified voter so as to prevent the voter from casting a secret ballot. The officers of election may order a person violating this subsection to cease such action. If such person does not promptly desist, the officers of election, or a majority of them, may order the arrest of such person by any person authorized by law to make arrests, and, by their warrant, may commit him to the county or city jail, as the case may be, for a period not exceeding twenty-four hours. Any person violating this subsection shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.
B. No person shall conduct himself in a noisy or riotous manner at or about the polls so as to disturb the election or insult or abuse an officer of election. Any person authorized to make arrests may forthwith arrest a person engaging in such conduct and bring him before the officers of the election, and they, by their warrant, may commit him to the county or city jail, as the case may be, for a period not exceeding twenty-four hours; but they shall permit him to vote if he is so entitled.

Subject to interpretation, I know, but do you really want to be the test case?

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TFred said:

Sounds to me like the SBE will be the ones guilty of this crime, not a law abiding citizen who is trying to vote.

Call the cops on THEM!

TFred

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va_tazdad said:

I recall Peter, but was unable to find the thread. The VBOE says no. They advised over the phone anyone carrying will be advised to go put it in your car and will not be allowed to vote until you comply. They claim refusal can be considered disorderly conduct.

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Marco said:

ID... My word/signature is good enough.

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MKEgal said:

Where I grew up & first voted (in OH), they had us sign the voting book at the polling location, & (I don't know how they did it) there was already a copy of our signature in the book, next to where we were supposed to sign.

Now I suppose there's someone who can forge a signature on the fly, just from seeing it there, but I've always wondered why more states/cities don't do that. A signature is free, always with the voter, and they only have to prove ID once, at registration.

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Riana said:

As I cannot carry at all in my polling place (elementary school), I was planning to go with an empty holster, and use my CHP as identification.

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Tess said:

I've been doing this for years. Apparently the poll workers at Riverside Precinct didn't know any better ...

This year, Delegate Surovell wrote a column/blog post in which he listed types of ID one could bring. When I called him on the face he didn't include CHP, he acknowledged the act, but didn't change the post.

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