scot623
Regular Member
Was there an edict from OCDO given to you to close threads? It seems more threads are closed now than ever before. Some are closed for seemingly no good reason.
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Question for new Michigan Mods OT
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stainless1911
Banned
One of my favorite things about OCDO was that we could go OT now and then without threads being locked all the time, but things were getting out of hand. They decided to crack down on things here. I suspect that it will all level off after a bit.
smellslikemichigan
Campaign Veteran
watch out:exclaim: you might get the ban hammer from one of the new power-tripping mods:exclaim:
on a positive note, there seems to be less of the nitpicking about text colors and other nonsense from some of the national mods now that we have the ability to police the threads at the state level.
TheQ
Regular Member
Shadow Bear
Michigan Moderator
No edict, no bonus; or, they didn't tell me about it!
There is a secret bounty on the Q, though. Oh, rats, I wasn't supposed to say.....:lol:
WilDChilD
Regular Member
I bet your glad stainless answered your question huh? Now its all clear. I feel better, dont you?
WilDChilD
Regular Member
There ya go. No need to keep this thread open any longer, lets lock this thing down.
Shadow Bear
Michigan Moderator
Asked & answered; but I'm open to opposing points of view.
Which thread didn't deserve to be closed, and why?
Seriously, lets have a dialog; I'm listening.
WilDChilD
Regular Member
I dont see why most of the locked threads are locked. Conversations evolve. Just because we are not talking about the original topic doesnt mean people were not still talking. It has become a joke. Why cant a thread just die because people quit posting?
BTW, I dont think you (shadow bear) are the one locking all the threads, but maybe you are?
scot623
Regular Member
Best recent example is the Neighborhood Watch thread. It was humming along, Dr Todd made a comment about the cost of war..and bam! It's locked. There wasn't any personal attacks or nastiness I saw and yet it was closed. I PM'd him to ask why it was locked, he replied he didn't know why and reopened it. A few posts later it was locked "by special request".
The New to Michigan thread died a pretty quick death too...the OP barely had a chance to follow up with questions.
SpringerXDacp
New member
It's the way it used to be and it worked out just fine. Granted, there were/are the anti's/trolls and such to deal with, but eventually, they were banned or just dried up and blew away. Times are a changin' I suppose.
Bronson
Regular Member
Seriously? It started when TheQ and you started your childlish little pot-shots at Stainless. Just ignore him.
TheQ said:
Stainless1911 said:
scott623 said:
It started with TheQ's childishness and spiralled down from there. Had he not posted what he did perhaps the thread would still be open but he just can't stop himself.
Bronson
scot623
Regular Member
So it's my fault..thanks for clearing that up. Oh, wait a minute..you and stainless aren't Mods so I guess you answering a question I specifically posed to the Mods is really a waste of bandwidth. How about we wait for them to tell us the reason for all the locks( maybe it is me!).
Big Gay Al
Michigan Moderator
Well, I don't know about the other mods, but when I close a thread it's for one of 2 reasons.
a.) The OP asked me to.
b.) I'm trying to keep things from going too far. Although usually, I'm too late, and things have gone too far already.
Also, I hope no one else asks me to ban someone. I've not found those controls yet, if they exist for mods. I'm not sure they do.
Actually, there are 3 reasons.
c.) When I get complaints about a post being OT, or a bunch of posts being OT, sometimes the only way to stop it is to close the thread.
(Give me time, I'm sure I'll come up with a 4th reason. )
a.) The OP asked me to.
b.) I'm trying to keep things from going too far. Although usually, I'm too late, and things have gone too far already.
Also, I hope no one else asks me to ban someone. I've not found those controls yet, if they exist for mods. I'm not sure they do.
Actually, there are 3 reasons.
c.) When I get complaints about a post being OT, or a bunch of posts being OT, sometimes the only way to stop it is to close the thread.
(Give me time, I'm sure I'll come up with a 4th reason.
)
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Big Gay Al
Michigan Moderator
My personal opinion, I have no problem with OT subjects, but they should be labeled as such, that way, everyone will know the thread is OT, and can ignore it if they wish. That's the way it's been done on other forums I've been on. And I myself have no problem with it being done that way.
The only remaining question would be if the admin agrees with it also. After all, he has the final word.
SpringerXDacp
New member
Even those who lock threads, to include the out-of-staters, are guilty of same.
DrTodd
Michigan Moderator
I believe that I may have inadvertently locked the thread when I posted my comment... don't know how other than my post was last so I can accept the assumption.
That being said, I haven't purposely locked any thread... yet. I hesitate doing so only because typically a thread "derails" rather than starting out off-topic. However, I have no hesitation in removing individual posts which blatantly violate the website's rules. That being said, I am willing to consider that I misinterpreted what was being stated and an aggrieved individual is welcome to pm me about my moderating.
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Tucker6900
Regular Member
Starting to look like a government operation here. First, instead of being more forceful in the beginning of the issue(warnings, banning, etc), it is left to slide a little out of control. Second, make useless attempts at fixing the problem(locking threads, deleting posts), sliding more out of control. Third, empower from within activist ranks to break up the pack.(state mods), . Finally, once you have succeeded in penetrating the ranks of the opposition, destroy it from within.
The more I look at some of the locked threads, the more I see they were locked for nothing but a heated debate.
My point is, this isnt going to be good for anybody.
Im ready for my microchip Mr. Moderator.
The more I look at some of the locked threads, the more I see they were locked for nothing but a heated debate.
My point is, this isnt going to be good for anybody.
Im ready for my microchip Mr. Moderator.
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Evil Creamsicle
Regular Member
This post ironically enough illustrates his point. Are you incapable of having a civil conversation void of jabs and sarcasm? At the very least, you could have simply ignored it and waited for the moderators. And if you didn't want the 'community' to respond, perhaps you should have pm'ed the mods?
For what its worth, my opinion is that the answer to your original question lies in the way you and a few others post responses exactly like the one I quoted above, instead of having a little tact and professionalism. There is a difference between meaningful conversation with a goal of debating a point, and sarcasm and trolling for the purpose of hoping to bully someone into leaving.
It makes actually trying to help someone answer a legitimate question incredibly difficult when you guys do this crap, and to have it come from people in positions that, whether intended or not, publicly represent open carriers in Michigan to media and others, it is embarrassing.
When a new poster asks a question, and the answer they get is "well, don't ask stainless that's for sure"... its like... what the hell? Answer the question or don't. If bad advice is given, correct it, sure... but even that can be done in a professional and intelligent way.
Edited to respond to Tucker:
I agree that none of this is good for anybody. I think it is a social issue though... one that the posters have to fix for themselves... I don't think there is any amount of moderating that can fix what is going on.
As they say in IT, technical solutions to social issues are inherently flawed.
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budlight
Regular Member
In my opinion, sometimes threads need to be closed when they go way off topic. Case and point;
1. It supports carrying a firearm while under the influence of intoxicating drugs or alcohol.
2. Supporting unlimited welfare/government handouts for those who are able bodied but too lazy to work.
3. It supports vigilantly justice.
1. It supports carrying a firearm while under the influence of intoxicating drugs or alcohol.
2. Supporting unlimited welfare/government handouts for those who are able bodied but too lazy to work.
3. It supports vigilantly justice.
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