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    OC'ers in Memphis, Shelby County and surrounding areas please speak up!

    I just got off the phone with my cousin (an anti OC'er who has fallen for the "element of surprise" BS). He told me that OC was illegal in TN. I tried to set him straight. But, he says nobody around Memphis OCs because it's illegal.

    I'm just wondering if there are any OC people from the area that can back my play? I now live in SC (22yrs). So, I'm not sure on the latest OC stats for TN.

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    OC'ers in Memphis, Shelby County and surrounding areas please speak up!

    Ridiculously easy to answer.

    http://www.tn.gov/attorneygeneral/op/2005/op/op154.pdf


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    Quote Originally Posted by OngoingFreedom View Post
    Ridiculously easy to answer.

    http://www.tn.gov/attorneygeneral/op/2005/op/op154.pdf


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    Yep, that's where I took him. He said the information is out dated & the law has changed.
    Personally, I think he's listening to some dumb^$$ instructor that has fed him a bunch of BS. I'm really shcked though. He's a life member of the NRA (where he gets most info); and he's been a CC'er in TN for over 20yrs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcox4freedom View Post
    Yep, that's where I took him. He said the information is out dated & the law has changed.
    Personally, I think he's listening to some dumb^$$ instructor that has fed him a bunch of BS. I'm really shcked though. He's a life member of the NRA (where he gets most info); and he's been a CC'er in TN for over 20yrs.
    That wouldn't shock me. My HCP instructor said something to this effect to my permit class: "Yes, open carry is legal; but, I don't recommend it. If something bad happens, you want the element of surprise. Personally, I believe open carriers think they're John Wayne with a big iron on their hip." (This was paraphrased; but, I distinctly remember the words "John Wayne" and "big iron on their hip.")
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nascar24Glock View Post
    That wouldn't shock me. My HCP instructor said something to this effect to my permit class: "Yes, open carry is legal; but, I don't recommend it. If something bad happens, you want the element of surprise. Personally, I believe open carriers think they're John Wayne with a big iron on their hip." (This was paraphrased; but, I distinctly remember the words "John Wayne" and "big iron on their hip.")

    I don't mind an instructor recommending CC over OC. But, I really get ticked when they talk about OC makes you lose the "element of surprise"; or OC makes you a "target" of BGs.

    I can see an instructor saying things like: "Ocing may make certain people uncomfortable because of fear."

    I even agree that sometimes the use of discretion could be better than the trying to make a statement. But to me, the only legitimate excuse for preferring CC over OC (besides legal issues), is a carriers "comfort" level.

    My cousin is uncomfortable with OC and others are as well; and I'm ok with someone not liking OC. But, I think it has more to do with mis-information & AG propaganda than is has to do with "reality". It just ticks me off when I hear about so-called professionals spreading lies & myths when it comes to OC.

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    [QUOTE=tcox4freedom;1838535]--snip-- It just ticks me off when I hear about so-called professionals spreading lies & myths when it comes to OC.
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    If he doesn't have any interest in open carrying, I wouldn't worry about trying to sway him on the facts. You've already given them to him, and if he says the data is outdated that means he has "better" sources than you do, and it's now his responsibility to share it. You can't be expected to find something that you know doesn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcox4freedom View Post
    --snip-- It just ticks me off when I hear about so-called professionals spreading lies & myths when it comes to OC.
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    The difference between a professional and an amateur is that a professional gets paid to be wrong.
    Yep, all amateur means is that you don't get paid to be good at something. Professional just means that you do get paid to be good at something.

    And I'm using the adjective "good" loosely here for some cases.
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    OC'ers in Memphis, Shelby County and surrounding areas please speak up!

    A quote from Dave Ramsey.
    A person convinced against their will, is of the same opinion still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt2908 View Post
    A quote from Dave Ramsey.
    A person convinced against their will, is of the same opinion still.
    Funny you mention Dave Ramsey. We just went through his Financial Peace course at our church.

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    OC'ers in Memphis, Shelby County and surrounding areas please speak up!

    I've listened to him on the radio for so long. I usually know the answer he is going to give.
    Sorry for the hijack

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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAxe View Post
    If he doesn't have any interest in open carrying, I wouldn't worry about trying to sway him on the facts. You've already given them to him, and if he says the data is outdated that means he has "better" sources than you do, and it's now his responsibility to share it. You can't be expected to find something that you know doesn't exist.

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    I'm really not trying to sway him. I'm just surprised he has fallen for the "element of surprise" and "OC makes you a target" BS!

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    I live in the Shelby County area and rarely see fellow open carriers. I can recall one time at Wal-Mart in Cordova that I saw one other guy and his wife open carrying. I thought that I was in Oz or something seeing them. The gentleman said hello and my buddy that was with me (he was open carrying too) and I said hello. We were in a hurry or I would have asked him if he gets on the forum here but didn't have time. Like I stated earlier, I do see people openly carrying but it is a RARE sight.

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    There's a guy who goes by the handle "TNMike" on another forum that lives in the Arlington area. He's the only other guy I've heard of that OC's in the memphis vicinty. I guess it has to be politics around Memphis because I do hear about more TN OC'ers in places like Nashville & Knoxville.

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