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    Shooting pits off highway 410

    My wife is doing the Heart Walk in downtown Seattle this Saturday, then we're planning on going out for a little shooting. Then I hit on the idea of checking out Surplus Ammo down Tacoma-way (since we'd be halfway there anyway), then heading out on highway 410 over Chinook & Cayuse passes to catch the first snow of the season and looping back on I-90.

    I'm not real familiar with the area, been a long time since I made that drive. Does anyone KNOW any decent gravel pits, etc, for shooting out along that way? As in, directions or GPS ##'s? Since the object of the day IS shooting and not snow chasing, I'd feel a little better about exploring if I actually knew where we could find something, as opposed to running random forest roads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead47 View Post
    My wife is doing the Heart Walk in downtown Seattle this Saturday, then we're planning on going out for a little shooting. Then I hit on the idea of checking out Surplus Ammo down Tacoma-way (since we'd be halfway there anyway), then heading out on highway 410 over Chinook & Cayuse passes to catch the first snow of the season and looping back on I-90.

    I'm not real familiar with the area, been a long time since I made that drive. Does anyone KNOW any decent gravel pits, etc, for shooting out along that way? As in, directions or GPS ##'s? Since the object of the day IS shooting and not snow chasing, I'd feel a little better about exploring if I actually knew where we could find something, as opposed to running random forest roads.
    Embark on a full tank of gas, get fueled up in Puyallup or Tacoma once you enter the pass it's about 50 miles to the next gas station and they're extremely expensive.

    It should take about 2 hours or so if you can make the speed limit. Most of Chinook pass is within Mount Ranier National Park, shooting off of the majority of the highway would be a no-no About 30 miles west of Yakima the park becomes Snoqualmie National Forest, shooting is OK there, but I'm not sure of specific areas, however there are plenty of forest service roads that leave the highway.

    10-15 west of Yakima there's scattered houses and farms along the route, also last year when I did that drive most of 410 west of Yakima was closed and traffic was redirected to a low speed county road on the other side of a river from the highway, definitely no shooting there, little houses everywhere.

    I'd PM BigDave, he lives in the area. it's a scenic drive, just make sure you're ready for it, this time last year it was literally a torrential downpour through the pass, I was making about 35mph when the limit was 50 just because I couldn't see that far ahead so be careful. but yes it is a scenic run, you may or may not see snow, October 22 was when I did it last year.
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    Shooting pits off highway 410

    Ok I see there's one called Greenwater shooting pit but some googling says "shootability" is kinda sketchy. Was hoping someone would have some more current insight than an interwebz list.

    EMN: yes, I tend to travel ridiculously prepared . Didn't think there was any gas at all at those passes. Probably been 15 years since I've been out that way.


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    Metalhead, was there a couple a weeks ago. Brought the kids, fun was had by all. You can stop at the Greenwater Store for your National Forest Pass if you dont already have one. I got a 1 day pass there.
    About 1 mile up 70 there a place to shoot off to the right, it is posted , cant miss it. Ranges up to 100 yard. Left after a couple hours after yahoo next to us was pointing his rifle at us while fidgeting with it. I believe there is more places up the road, havent had a reason to look.
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    Yep, the Greenwater area is where I do all my camping. If you're in Greenwater, go east on 410, when you pass the fire station, which is on your left, go about another 1/2 mile to the first road that you see. This is FS 70. Just follow the pavement a couple miles in and you will see the gravel pit. It's a pretty good place to shoot. Lots of people go there.
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    . . . for your National Forest Pass if you dont already have one.


    You don't need a pass!

    Those passes are for trailheads and other developed recreation sites with a minimum of 7 amenities, including: toilet, garbage service, picnic table, security patrols, interpretive display, and 2 other requirements I can't remember.

    The Forest Service seems to be trying to make people think you need a forest pass to even set tire or foot in the forest. That's not what the law says!

    None of the pits off SR-410 have any of the amenities I listed, therefore, they do not require a permit, and no permit is required for general forest access.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deanf View Post
    You don't need a pass!

    Those passes are for trailheads and other developed recreation sites with a minimum of 7 amenities, including: toilet, garbage service, picnic table, security patrols, interpretive display, and 2 other requirements I can't remember.

    The Forest Service seems to be trying to make people think you need a forest pass to even set tire or foot in the forest. That's not what the law says!

    None of the pits off SR-410 have any of the amenities I listed, therefore, they do not require a permit, and no permit is required for general forest access.[/COLOR]
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    Quote Originally Posted by deanf View Post
    You don't need a pass!

    Those passes are for trailheads and other developed recreation sites with a minimum of 7 amenities, including: toilet, garbage service, picnic table, security patrols, interpretive display, and 2 other requirements I can't remember.

    The Forest Service seems to be trying to make people think you need a forest pass to even set tire or foot in the forest. That's not what the law says!

    None of the pits off SR-410 have any of the amenities I listed, therefore, they do not require a permit, and no permit is required for general forest access.[/COLOR]
    Cite? Because ALL of Capitol Forest has signage. Including the shooting pit that doesn't have any of those amenities.
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    Objection: irrelevant. Capitol Forest is State Trust timber lands. Everything off
    SR-410 is either private and gated, or U.S. Forest Service land (federal). Federal permits or passes and State permits and passes are separate and different.

    I will cite the federal Forest Service fee program later from my laptop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead47 View Post
    ... heading out on highway 410 over Chinook & Cayuse passes ... Does anyone KNOW any decent gravel pits, etc, for shooting out along that way? ....
    You just brought back some of my fondest childhood memories. Corliss Redi-Mix is a gravel pit on Hwy 410 between Enumclaw and Mt. Ranier. I spent my summers living there, as my grandparents were living on the property when they were alive. They were friends with the Corliss family and worked at the pit. My grandfather operated a Cat 980 loader in that pit until he was 86 years old.

    Needless to say I practically grew up shooting in that gravel pit. But it wasn't open to the public to do so! Sorry, pal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by massivedesign View Post
    Cite? Because ALL of Capitol Forest has signage. Including the shooting pit that doesn't have any of those amenities.
    Quote Originally Posted by deanf View Post
    Objection: irrelevant. Capitol Forest is State Trust timber lands. Everything off
    SR-410 is either private and gated, or U.S. Forest Service land (federal). Federal permits or passes and State permits and passes are separate and different.

    I will cite the federal Forest Service fee program later from my laptop.
    Correct, the difference between state and federal land.
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    Thanks for the correction!
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    Here is the cite for the federal fee program, commonly called the Northwest Forest Pass in these parts:

    From TITLE VIII--FEDERAL LANDS RECREATION ENHANCEMENT ACT AKA: 16 U.S.C. 6802

    (f) Standard Amenity Recreation Fee.--Except as limited by subsection (d), the Secretary may charge a standard amenity recreation fee for Federal recreational lands and waters under the jurisdiction of the Bureau of Land Management, the Bureau of Reclamation, or the Forest Service, but only at the following: (1) A National Conservation Area.
    (2) A National Volcanic Monument.
    (3) A destination visitor or interpretive center that provides a broad range of interpretive services, programs, and media.
    (4) An area--
    (A) that provides significant opportunities for outdoor recreation;
    (B) that has substantial Federal investments;
    (C) where fees can be efficiently collected; and
    (D) that contains all of the following amenities:
    (i) Designated developed parking.
    (ii) A permanent toilet facility.
    (iii) A permanent trash receptacle.
    (iv) Interpretive sign, exhibit, or kiosk.
    (v) Picnic tables.
    (vi) Security services.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deanf View Post
    Here is the cite for the federal fee program, commonly called the Northwest Forest Pass in these parts:

    From TITLE VIII--FEDERAL LANDS RECREATION ENHANCEMENT ACT AKA: 16 U.S.C. 6802
    So a fee pass is NOT required just to stop & shoot at an old gravel pit in the national forest, correct?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    You just brought back some of my fondest childhood memories. Corliss Redi-Mix is a gravel pit on Hwy 410 between Enumclaw and Mt. Ranier. I spent my summers living there, as my grandparents were living on the property when they were alive. They were friends with the Corliss family and worked at the pit. My grandfather operated a Cat 980 loader in that pit until he was 86 years old.

    Needless to say I practically grew up shooting in that gravel pit. But it wasn't open to the public to do so! Sorry, pal.
    Is that the pit we're talking about here? If not, is it open? Sounds like at this one you can't actually drive out into the pit, which is a bit inconvenient when you've brought a small arsenal to shoot with.


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    The pit I'm referring to is NOT open; it is private property, leased from Weyerhaeuser. I just had to share...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead47 View Post
    My wife is doing the Heart Walk in downtown Seattle this Saturday, then we're planning on going out for a little shooting. Then I hit on the idea of checking out Surplus Ammo down Tacoma-way (since we'd be halfway there anyway), then heading out on highway 410 over Chinook & Cayuse passes to catch the first snow of the season and looping back on I-90.

    I'm not real familiar with the area, been a long time since I made that drive. Does anyone KNOW any decent gravel pits, etc, for shooting out along that way? As in, directions or GPS ##'s? Since the object of the day IS shooting and not snow chasing, I'd feel a little better about exploring if I actually knew where we could find something, as opposed to running random forest roads.

    Quote Originally Posted by gogodawgs View Post
    I dont see any gravel pits marked on the map, only private businesses that charge to shoot on their range. I am also looking for any free places around Marysville to go shoot. I did not see anything on the link for this area either. Maybe I am missing something on the page or am not clicking the link correctly. I am not really sure of the Tulalip boundries out here, so I am not sure at times when I am OC if I am on a res or not. I kinda wondered about the Wal-mart because they have Tulalip police there at times and are so close to the casino.

    Correction I did see one, that is closed, DNR land. Kind of a handy map for gun stores, there is one on there I didnt know is out here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    I dont see any gravel pits marked on the map, only private businesses that charge to shoot on their range. I am also looking for any free places around Marysville to go shoot. I did not see anything on the link for this area either. Maybe I am missing something on the page or am not clicking the link correctly. I am not really sure of the Tulalip boundries out here, so I am not sure at times when I am OC if I am on a res or not. I kinda wondered about the Wal-mart because they have Tulalip police there at times and are so close to the casino.

    Correction I did see one, that is closed, DNR land. Kind of a handy map for gun stores, there is one on there I didnt know is out here.
    When I lived in Marysville, FMJ 911 and I went shooting at Duvall, Darrington, or Sedro Wolley. That's about as close as they get in that erea. Duvall is usually gated off and hard to get to though. Darrington and Sedro are nice pits and you can drive your vehicle into them. Only downside is all the damn trash from dumpers. We usually burn all the wood and take a few bags of trash with us whenever we go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    I dont see any gravel pits marked on the map, only private businesses that charge to shoot on their range. I am also looking for any free places around Marysville to go shoot. I did not see anything on the link for this area either. Maybe I am missing something on the page or am not clicking the link correctly.

    Well it's my map, so who best to answer eh? I gathered all the data on shooting spots by the powers of Google, other Forums as well as word of mouth. "Honey Holes", i.e. cool little forested shooting areas, are not always shared. There are tons located down south because I live down there, so as I find areas while venturing Capitol Forest, I post em up. If people know of a shooting pit, ON PUBLIC LAND, then please send me the GPS Coords and a basic description of the area (backstop, distance, trashy, etc) and I will put it on the map.
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    I don't feel it's very safe to shoot pits off any highway!
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    Thanx for the directions guys, we had a great lil time, although it was turning decidedly white by the end there. We actually stopped at a turn off that said "Please shoot responsibly," the "official" put was taken up by a half dozen goombas shooting off the concrete blocks and thereby taking up the entire pit. Anyways, here's my wife with her AR & tracers that don't trace:

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    You won't see tracers that close you would need a miniomum of 100m to see them.

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